Darkest Desires PART IV
Jul 23, 2004 at 6:46 PM Post #376 of 1,001
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Originally Posted by DarkAngel
More than just good.....#7 on my all time dark metal list, one of the great albums of the golden era of dark metal.

Here is the list again for reference:
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yes! I remember reading that list.. The only bands on there that I have anything by are Opeth (DELIVERANCE), Amorphis (ELEGY and TUONELLA) and Katatonia ("clean vocal era" - love that stuff
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). I have an Anathema cd that someone sent me.. (SERENADES) - that's pretty decent, though not earth-shattering. I'm not sure what catagory they fit into. As I've said before, most of the stuff I know is old school death metal and grindcore. I really like a lot of the newer death/black metal.. though sometimes the orchestrations and/or synths come off sounding silly in my opinion.. it just kind of depends on how they're used.

But thanks for reminding me about your list. I'd really like to add a few of these to my collection, though it might take a few years to go it with all the other stuff I'm interested in..

new Bark Psychosis album coming out soon! can't wait to get that
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-jar
 
Jul 24, 2004 at 12:34 PM Post #377 of 1,001
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Originally Posted by DarkAngel
New stuff stuff at DA's crypt:

ANCIENT - Night Visit
DIABOLICAL MASQUERADE - Death's Design
SUMMONING - Lug Burz
NINNGHIZIDDA - Blasphemy
NIGHTWISH - Once
HAGGARD - Eppur Si Muove
AFTER FOREVER - Invisible Circles
HECATE ENTHRONED - Redimus



Hey ET was right, the Diabolical Masquerade CD is cool. Lots of interesting musical ideas here that flow together much better than the many tracks would have you believe, sound is also very good, solid dark metal album. If you like this you really should check out Dan Swano's work with Edge of Sanity especially Crimson and Crimson II


Ancient continues their impressive streak of quality dark metal, I have 5-6 albums now and they are all very good, newest one listed above just continues the tradition. Many people compare thier style to Cradle of Filth and there is some similarity but they are not copycats and have consistently impressive work.
 
Jul 24, 2004 at 12:48 PM Post #378 of 1,001
For fans of dark, experimental progmetal/darkwave stuff, Peccatum - Lost in Reverie is strongly recommended. It's Ihsahn's (ex Emperor mastermind) and his wife's band. It has some black metallish moments, but mostly it's very atmospheric stuff with long jazz-like parts, dark ambient/dark wave influences and great female vocals. I have heard that the previous Peccatum album's haven't been that great, but this one is clearly one of the best albums I have heard in this "dark, moody and metal related" stuff, heh.

DarkAngel, how do you like Nightwish - Once? I just noticed that it's #1 on european billboard charts, which means that it's the most sold album in Europe at the moment, huh. Quite amusing that it's still not released in US...
 
Jul 24, 2004 at 11:22 PM Post #379 of 1,001
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Originally Posted by DarkAngel
Hey ET was right, the Diabolical Masquerade CD is cool. Lots of interesting musical ideas here that flow together much better than the many tracks would have you believe, sound is also very good, solid dark metal album.


Oh good, I'm so glad the money was well spent.
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It is an idosycratic CD and not everyone appreciates it. I made a
post about DM at another metal forum and some people really don't
like it.I'm sure everyone is well aware long ago about the Ultimate metal forum .
It's a nice change of pace for me. Rougher for sure, but I like the more
liberal use of language. Head-Fi is like a rowdy library (and I like
libraries) and Ultimate metal like a noisy, more colorful bar(33,083
members). And I do like having forums devoted to individual bands,
My Dying Bride, Opeth, Katatonia, Dan Swano, etc.

Speaking of idosycratic, Arcturus''The Sham Mirrors' is a spacey,
psychedelic listen that's lots of fun but not metal really. What's
with the drummer Hellhammer? How many bands is this guy with?!!!
Wow.

I'm still waiting for 'Chimera' to arrive. I did just receive Arch
Enemy's
'Wages of Sin' and liked 'Ravenous' & 'Savage Messiah' right
away but haven't heard side 2 yet. I prefer Aggaloch's 'Pale
Folklore' to 'The Mantle'. 'Pale Folklore' has a charming
amateurness to. That's not an insult, it's a compliment. Mantle is a
little overpolished and stretched out for me. But both are really
recorded well.

As for my vinyl experiment I've found it depends on the recording.
The Arch Enemy, Katatonia, Dimmu and My Dying Bride releases are
pretty close between CD and vinyl. But there are exceptions where
real care has been put into the pressing. I picked up Earmark's 180
gram Black Sabbath Vol.4
. I chose Vol.4 as one I've not heard as
much as the earlier ones. I should have picked the 1st LP so I could
hear "What is this that stands before me" because these Earmark
pressings have major soundstaging audiophile qualities. They sound
fantastic.And the album jacket is great, it's texture is like glossy
photopaper and the whole thing comes in a heavy plastic re-sealable
cover. Pretty damned cool for $18 USD. I think I'm going to sell
the Castle CD box set and get the rest. But I noticed Rhino records
has released a 180 gram 'Paranoid' as well so I'll wait and see
what's going on there.

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Whenever browsing TheEnd I'll see the book 'Top 500 Heavy Metal
Albums' (Martin Popoff) and was NOT interested for one moment.
I saw it when looking around a bookstore near me and flipped through it
and it is OK. This is essentially a bathroom book you'd spend 10
minutes with now and again. It's a great way for me to kill 15
minutes on the subway. I open it at any page. A good value for $15
IMHO.
The 500 were arrived at through an international poll and so it's
front heavy with Metallica,Slayer,AC/DC,Iron Maiden,etc but it gets
more interesting further on.
186-Dokken-Tooth and Nail
187-Gamma Ray-Land of the Free
188-Death-Symbolic
189-Cooper,Alice-Love it to Death
190-Mayhem-De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas
191-Corrosion of Conformity-Deliverance
192-Queensryche-The Warning
193-Rush-A Farewell to Kings
194-Blue Oyster Cult-Agents of Fortune
195-White Zombie-La Sexorcisto
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196-Therion-Theli
197-Thin Lizzy-Thunder and Lightning
198-Motorhead-No Remorse
A real mixed bag of bands for sure!

Each description is about a paragraph but what I liked was that
95% were followed by a paragraph length quote from an
interview from a band member about that particular album.
Example:
#351 Turn Loose The Swans-My Dying Bride
"I'm somewhat suprised that marks didn't coagulate around a newer,
more accomplished MDB collection, but there you go, fans eyeing
album No.2, the exciting moment when the band's black wings spread
elegantly and perceptively for the first time. Turn Loose The Swans
is a heavy, creaking experiment in mental terrorism, the band
grinding metal down to barely conscious levels, Aaron croaking over
the deafening hum, his intense gothic romanticism-(f)or-death
transferred, broken man to broken fan, firmly,
graphically,invitingly. The band lulls you into thinking not much
happens, so when it (sparingly and infinitely later) does, the
effect is like the 16 hooves of the apocalypse overrunning your
foxhole position."
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Aaron on Turn Loose The Swans:
"This is a sort of choppy, changey kind of record. You can see the
natural setup from the previous album, but with much better
production. We had calmed down a bit soundwise too. We also released
two EPS by this time as well, and we were much more mature. Turn
Loose The Swans is a lot of fan's favorite album, I think. It's nice
when we see and hear bands doing similar things to My Dying Bride.
And some bands, you can hear riffs that are ours and they've tweaked
them ever so slightly to give them a sort of copyright edge
[laughs], and it's nice. We are in no way offended by people taking
big, heavy chunky influences off us. That's great. We don't want to
be ripped off, obviously, but it's nice when you see elements from
MDB in other bands. And it's wonderful when you read interviews from
bands and they say, 'Oh God, yeah, My Dying Bride influenced us.'
And I'm sure people in Celtic Frost and Candlemass like to read
that. They are two of my favorite bands of all time. It's nice to be
complimented."

I like when musical insight is part of the interview:
Hellhammer on De Mysteriis:
"With the production, some of it has to do with...well, back then,
the studio wasn't really a studio. They built it up more later, but
back then my drums were actually recorded in the big hall, with lots
of ambient mix in there; I insisted on having my drums recorded
there instead of this little recording room. It was a lot of hassle
for the producer, because he had to drag cables through the elevator
tracks, but I'm very glad that I did it like that. Grieghallen was
the right place for us and for the album. I think that record was
ahead of its time, as there weren't too many people who liked it.
But in a way, it really set a standard for this Norwegian
contemporary black metal wave, actually. I'd say in like, 1988, the
feeling was much more dark. I would say at that point in time I was
more into the occult, satanism. Not so much today now. A band can
never run away from its history, and Mayhem has a very dark, bloody
history. But history is history, and when people want to bring up
the killing of Euronymous, Dead's suicide, Varg's imprisonment and
stuff like that, it's like...it's not so interesting to me, actually
[laughs]. I'm not too comfortable to talk about it, because it's all
been said and I'm sick of repeating myself. But De Mysteriis, the
feeling on that album is unparalleled. I've never heard such
darkness and atmosphere on any other old release."

I guess I've typed enough.
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Jul 25, 2004 at 1:49 PM Post #380 of 1,001
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Originally Posted by Nacher
DarkAngel, how do you like Nightwish - Once? I just noticed that it's #1 on european billboard charts, which means that it's the most sold album in Europe at the moment, huh. Quite amusing that it's still not released in US


Still waiting to get Nightwish Once, probably in Monday's mail. Better be good for the price I paid.
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Originally Posted by ET
I did just receive Arch
Enemy's 'Wages of Sin' and liked 'Ravenous' & 'Savage Messiah' right
away but haven't heard side 2 yet. I prefer Aggaloch's 'Pale
Folklore' to 'The Mantle'. 'Pale Folklore' has a charming
amateurness to. That's not an insult, it's a compliment. Mantle is a
little overpolished and stretched out for me. But both are really
recorded well.



-Every song on AE "wages" is at least very good, solid as a rock.
-"Pale Folklore" is the best Agolloch album easily for me.


OMG.......listening to SUMMONING "lug burz" which is thier first album, completely different from other albums. Savage fury like an unholy hellbeast that rips you apart, sound is cavernous washed out distortion and primitive, vocals are wicked, pure black metal. Much closer sounding to parent group ABIGOR, perhaps even more agressive.

Next album "Minas Morgul" is transitional still having some savage elements of Lug Burz, but also blending with more mature epic dark soundscape style of future albums like:
Dol Guldur
Stronghold
Mortal Heroes.
 
Jul 25, 2004 at 2:03 PM Post #381 of 1,001
Last Night on Head Banger's Ball
Had extreme death metal group SUFFOCATION in studio, don't like thier stuff myself but they are widley recognized as technically near the top of anyones list. They broke up for awhile and are now back together claiming the "scence" is bigger than ever now.
Some new videos shown......for instance Fear Factory new video "archetype" was pretty good and music is getting better, but still not good enough for me to buy, too much nu-metal influence.

But next week studio guest will be JUDAS PRIEST which I will definitely check out. Should have Halford with them, riding high with main stage OZZFEST tour this summer.
 
Jul 25, 2004 at 9:45 PM Post #382 of 1,001
I finally picked up Edge of Sanity - Crimson II.
Pretty good, it was a pain to rip into MP3 because of all the tracks. I ended up just making it one big MP3 file.
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We enjoyed the album on the drive home from Boise, unfortunatley that is the only listen I have had time to give it.
 
Jul 27, 2004 at 10:49 AM Post #383 of 1,001
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Originally Posted by Mr.PD
I finally picked up Edge of Sanity - Crimson II.
Pretty good, it was a pain to rip into MP3 because of all the tracks. I ended up just making it one big MP3 file.
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We enjoyed the album on the drive home from Boise, unfortunatley that is the only listen I have had time to give it.



You should get EOS - Crimson I the album that made Dan Swano a legend, one of the great albums of the golden era.
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One winner, one loser:
I have to report that new HECATE ENTHRONED - Redimus is yet another great album by this group, I have them all and this group is truely underrated and constantly berrated by fools at metal forums who have never heard them. As said before if you like COF style music this is for you.

Will not be keeping NINNGHIZIDDA - Blasphemy which is thier debut album, music is actually good but vocals are very weak/flat and ruin it all for me. I actually like 2nd album they have, vocals are much improved and sounds like new band with good overall sound.

And one not sure of
Newest AFTER FOREVER - Invisible Circle is a strange bird. The group has always been borderline cheesy for me, but great female vocals and occassional male death vocals along with solid music made them keepers (but not at the same exaulted level as Tristania for instance) New album apparantly is about parenthood/children theme and there is some really corny narrative inserted in album and music is becoming more progressive/pop/lilith fair and less dark metal.......may keep this but the chain has been broken by After Forever.
 
Jul 27, 2004 at 11:53 PM Post #384 of 1,001
Naglfar - Vittra

Recently picked this up on DA's recommend, I liked Sheol, we'll see if this is good as well.
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Scott
 
Jul 28, 2004 at 1:20 AM Post #385 of 1,001
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Originally Posted by DarkAngel
New stuff stuff at DA's crypt:
<stuff>
DIABOLICAL MASQUERADE - Death's Design
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May I ask of you where you've found that CD? Have you bought it online, or...? Because I've been looking all over for that CD, because I just need to have it...I love that album.

My, my, it's been awhile since I first dared to post here (in this thread).
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Jul 28, 2004 at 1:30 PM Post #386 of 1,001
Mayhem - De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas
After reading the comments made by Hellhammer in eyeteeth's post, I decided to take this CD out of the "I don't like these" row of my CD rack and give it another listen.
Strange thing happened. I like this CD now! The vocals aren't my favorite, but the music is great.
I have noticed my tastes changing a little in the last few months.
 
Jul 28, 2004 at 4:26 PM Post #387 of 1,001
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Originally Posted by Mr.PD
Mayhem - De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas
After reading the comments made by Hellhammer in eyeteeth's post, I decided to take this CD out of the "I don't like these" row of my CD rack and give it another listen.
Strange thing happened. I like this CD now! The vocals aren't my favorite, but the music is great.
I have noticed my tastes changing a little in the last few months.



I got my Mayhem Chimera two days ago and was going to let it sink in more before posting but what the hell, I'll follow your Mayhem post with a Mayhem post.
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I've haven't heard any Mayhem so I had no real expectations. I like it. How much I like it I'm not sure yet. Chimera is metal deconstructionism. This is a strange animal, a new species to me. It functions well enough but is turned inside out. It has the potential for me to like it a lot, maybe not as a toe tapping musical good time, but more of an artistic intellectual pleasure like looking at an abstract painting. Very clear production!
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I'm know in a few weeks exactly how I like it.
 
Jul 28, 2004 at 5:53 PM Post #388 of 1,001
If you folks want some super-heavy disturbed out-there post-Sabbath stoner metal, give Church of Misery a try. They're Japanese and they seem to dedicate every single song to a different serial killer. Good stuff.

- Chris
 
Jul 28, 2004 at 8:36 PM Post #389 of 1,001
Darkthrone - Sardonic Wrath
September 6th

track listing

1. Order of the Ominous [intro]
2. Information Wants to Be Syndicated
3. Sjakk Matt Jesu Krist
4. Straightening Sharks in Heaven
5. Alle Gegen Alle
6. Man Tenker Sitt
7. Sacrificing to the God of Doubt
8. Hate Is the Law
9. Rawness Obsolete
 
Jul 29, 2004 at 12:41 AM Post #390 of 1,001
I've noticed a lot of people here seem to like female fronted bands, such as the new Arch Enemy, and Sinister. Have any of you heard Thorr's Hammer ?
The singer, Runhild "Ozma" Gammelsæter, is AMAZING I love Angela Gossow, but Runhild blows her (and most male singers) away with sheer brutality.
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The opening track of the now re-released Dommedagsnatt is available as a free MP3 download (just click on "Thorr's Hammer" above, and download "Norge"). Sadly, the band is no longer. Give Norge a listen and let me know what you think. Slow, almost doom like Death Metal, she not only growls with the best of 'em, but chants poetry as well. All done back in 1995, well before it was popular for women to front death metal bands. I first heard it on KDVS 90.30 FM (great collage radio station, BTW) about 5 years ago and I've been in love with it ever since.
 

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