DAP with DivX/Xvid playback?

[keiith]

Now the only DAP so far that I know can do this at the moment is the Creative Zen Vision:M.

Is there any other alternatives? Why haven't Apple decided to include Divx/Xvid playback in their DAP's? Will it really cost them that much more? I'm sure it would definitely help their cause and please many...

Are there any other DAP's on the horizon that will support DivX/Xvid playback? Or is the only option the Creative Zen Vision:M... It's a great player no doubt, but it is a bit on the chunky side and it has been over a year since it has been released so it's an aging player...

 

[Ricardo Dawkins]

Cowon A2

 

[krmathis]

Afaik the 5G and later iPod's play DivX and XviD movies (which both are compatible with the MPEG-4 video standard).

Quote:

Video Formats; MPEG-4 video, up to 2.5 Mbps, 640 by 480 pixels, 30 frames per sec., Simple Profile with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps, 48 kHz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4, and .mov file formats

http://www.apple.com/ipod/specs.html

 

[Packgrog]

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Originally Posted by Ricardo Dawkins /img/forum/go_quote.gif Cowon A2

Second that.

Also, it's worth mentioning that the A2 has fantastic sound quality for a DAP/PMP. I regularly use the headphone out of the A2 without an amp when used in my car or with my EM3 for music, and it sounds marvelous (it uses a Wolfson DAC, which helps). It also has some of the best video codec support around for a PMP. The 4" widescreen is wonderfully clear and bright. The build quality is also excellent, being sturdy without being shaped like a brick (*cough*archos*cough*). I still use mine regularly, even though I no longer need to use it for daily commuting on a train. It's also very nice not having to re-encode every video file to a custom format (ie: I think the 5.x gen iPods require you to reencode all video to MOV files with specific resolutions). The A2 supports FLAC, Ogg, MP3, XviD, DivX, etc. natively, up to about regular DVD resolutions.

There are some caveats with it. LAME VBR New doesn't work properly, it doesn't have gapless playback, the shuffle feature kinda sucks, and the music playing interface could be better. Otherwise, it's marvelous. Recommended, particularly if you mostly plan on using it to watch videos. There's probably better DAPs if your primary focus is listening to music, but this is just about the king of video playback.

 

[mrsmr2]

Cowon D2 plays xvid and divx.

 

[pata2001]

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Originally Posted by krmathis /img/forum/go_quote.gif Afaik the 5G and later iPod's play DivX and XviD movies (which both are compatible with the MPEG-4 video standard).

Divx/Xvid is MPEG4, but the iPod only support files with .mp4 container using AAC as the audio. Most Divx/Xvid uses .avi container and MP3 audio, which is NOT compatible with the iPod. You have to transcode them to .mp4.

Yes, for video, nothing beats Cowon A2, yet (until the A3 comes out that is). Too bad it doesn't support QPEL and GMC, and have problems if the audio is VBR MP3.

The D2 has only 4GB capacity, albeit flash based (A2 uses 20-30GB HDD), and non-widescreen lower res screen (only 320x240, A2's screen res is 480x272). I can't wait for the A3 to come out (support for mkv).

 

[ttnl]

However, the A2 has been out for almost 2 years now. I don't know if it get outdated or not, and the price is still expensive.

 

[blessingx]

XviD wouldn't cost Apple, but Divx would. Besides H.264 is the future... and present. I'd figure out your player of choice first, then transcode if necessary.

And yes a media player would likely be better than a video MP3 player. A cheap laptop would be even better.

 

[rockin_amigo14]

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Originally Posted by ttnl /img/forum/go_quote.gif However, the A2 has been out for almost 2 years now. I don't know if it get outdated or not, and the price is still expensive.

i wouldn't worry about it getting outdated. It's still one of, if not arguably the best, PMP available. Its successor, the A3, offers little that warrants upgrading, aside from a larger hard drive.

 

[Genocide]

been using my a2 since 1 1/2 years ago, the best player till today, the only complain i have for it is the limited capacity of the hdd

 

[ttnl]

Is the A2 really big and bulky? Can I put it in my pant pocket and walk around town? Can you hold it easily in your palm? Yeah, the screen is so nice. Maybe I wait for A3 then.

 

[kramer5150]

can the yp-t9 play DivX?

 

[krmathis]

Quote:

Originally Posted by pata2001 /img/forum/go_quote.gif Divx/Xvid is MPEG4, but the iPod only support files with .mp4 container using AAC as the audio. Most Divx/Xvid uses .avi container and MP3 audio, which is NOT compatible with the iPod. You have to transcode them to .mp4.

Partly true.
The iPod play MP3 audio as part of movies as well, and it support other containers than the MPEG4 one. But correctly not the AVI container.

The OP asked about DivX/Xvid playback in particular, and did not mention container or audio formats...

 

[pata2001]

Quote:

Originally Posted by krmathis /img/forum/go_quote.gif Partly true. The iPod play MP3 audio as part of movies as well, and it support other containers than the MPEG4 one. But correctly not the AVI container. The OP asked about DivX/Xvid playback in particular, and did not mention container or audio formats...

Show me how to make divx/xvid playable on iPod without transcoding to .mp4/mov. If you want to be more specific, the iPod only support simple profile MPEG4. Divx/Xvid use advance profile (B-frames, quarter pixel, etc). Also, the audio has to be in AAC-LC, not MP3.

 

[arnoldsoccer4]

Archos 4/5/604, 504 can go up to 160 gigs, also zen vision w the widescreen version of the m.