[thomaspf]

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Originally Posted by Aevum /img/forum/go_quote.gif it depends on the card, theres an issue where vista affects music, some sound devices with "unsecure" audio outputs have the quality reduced,

What is an unsecure audio output and under what conditions do you get the audio quality reduced?

I thought everything that worked in XP works the same way in Vista. Only new applications that would not even run under XP could trigger this quality reduction. Is that wrong?

Cheers

Thomas

 

[LawnGnome]

Is anybody else wondering why pictures were needed for this thread?

 

[Scrith]

Yikes, all the "I read this" and "I heard this" and "I bet that" posts are scaring me...what a giant rumor machine the internet is turning into. Please take any posts that contain these words with a few thousand grains of salt.

I used XP for quite awhile with my current setup, and I'm now using Vista (Home Premium upgrade to my existing computer). Vista sounds the same, if not better, to my ears, using both my headphones and speakers.

The one constructive bit of information I'd like to throw in here (which I haven't read anywhere else, amazingly) is that, with my USB DAC at least, using the Kernel Streaming output from Foobar2000 eliminates all measurable computer overhead (based on what I'm seeing in the Task Manager...the culprit with regular DirectSound output seems to be something called the "audio graph" process). So I recommend trying Kernel Streaming or ASIO output, if (and only if) you are experiencing clicks and pops (especially while running other applications, particularly ones that are generating sound). This Kernel Streaming mode seems to be exclusive, by the way (i.e. once I start using it with Foobar2000, I can't get any other applications to make sounds until I stop Foobar2000).

 

[Redo]

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Originally Posted by Scrith /img/forum/go_quote.gif Yikes, all the "I read this" and "I heard this" and "I bet that" posts are scaring me...what a giant rumor machine the internet is turning into. Please take any posts that contain these words with a few thousand grains of salt.

There's a chart showing how Vista handle's the sound system, if anyone can find it and post it, you'll understand what I'm talking about.

 

[Jodiuh]

Sounds the same for the X-Fi XtremeGamer from OS to OS.

 

[maarek99]

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Originally Posted by Scrith /img/forum/go_quote.gif Yikes, all the "I read this" and "I heard this" and "I bet that" posts are scaring me...what a giant rumor machine the internet is turning into. Please take any posts that contain these words with a few thousand grains of salt. I used XP for quite awhile with my current setup, and I'm now using Vista (Home Premium upgrade to my existing computer). Vista sounds the same, if not better, to my ears, using both my headphones and speakers.

You're not even using a soundcard.

 

[Gautama]

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Originally Posted by Scrith /img/forum/go_quote.gif I can't get any other applications to make sounds until I stop Foobar2000).

IMO thats a good thing

 

[BigFNDeal]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scrith /img/forum/go_quote.gif This Kernel Streaming mode seems to be exclusive, by the way (i.e. once I start using it with Foobar2000, I can't get any other applications to make sounds until I stop Foobar2000).

I agree with what Gautama stated above, I actually had switched from KS to ASIO for a while and now I'm back to KS again specifically because of this. Just seems nicer to me to not have to worry about anything other than Foobar outputting sound while I'm listening to music, that's what I want.

 

[user5412]

That's odd. There should be no perceptible difference in the SQ. Did you make sure you downloaded the latest drivers for your sound card?

 

[Him]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scrith /img/forum/go_quote.gif This Kernel Streaming mode seems to be exclusive, by the way (i.e. once I start using it with Foobar2000, I can't get any other applications to make sounds until I stop Foobar2000).

Doesn't happen for me.

 

[CSMR]

For "ordinary" sound output of applications (via windows and not an exclusive interface like ASIO) Vista has different processing from XP. You should fiddle with the DSP a little. I can imagine multichannel systems can be tricky to set up. Vista's options seem interesting. You can even use a mic to callibrate the dsp for room correction.

 

[Jodiuh]

I take it back, there's some crackling in GRAW 2, whereas GRAW 1 on XP sounded fine. That could be the game tho...

OT: How are the Vista X-Fi driver disc/bundle's working out...torrent?

 

[jbloudg20]

Get rid of your crap sound card, get better speakers, and external DAC, and you'll be golden.

 

[Superpredator]

Jodiuh, please post more often.


Oh yeah, also: Foobar - KS - 1212m in Vista sounds great with the beta EMU drivers. I remember hearing a weird "chick-chick-chick" every once in a while after I first set up the 1212m in XP, but that's gone in Vista. I hate Vista for a lot of reasons, but soundwise it's perfectly fine.

 

[Agent Kang]

THat is one fine looking setup.