[MorrisL]

HD 600 is my reference headphone for mixing/mastering, but unfortunately I often need to work at nights and don't want to disturb my girlfriend. 
 
I have DT 770 32ohm but it's so different from my reference ideal, it's confusing to work with those. Does anyone know which closed headphones would bring me closest to the HD 600 sound?

 

[PurpleAngel]

Sony MDR-V6 or MDR-7506 closed headphone should serve you well for audio creation, production and mixing.
Doubt they sound as good as the HD600.

 

[MorrisL]

  Sony MDR-V6 or MDR-7506 closed headphone should serve you well for audio creation, production and mixing.
Doubt they sound as good as the HD600.

Thanks! It's not about it sounding "as good." I just want the sound signature to be as close as possible. Somebody recommended Shure SRH840 but another engineer I talked to said SRH440 should be even better, because they're more neutral. It's getting a little confusing. 
 
The MDR-V6 and 7506 are said to be top-heavy harsh sounding phones. I doubt they're going to sound anything like the HD600.

 

[Music Alchemist]

The MDR-V6 and 7506 are said to be top-heavy harsh sounding phones. I doubt they're going to sound anything like the HD600.

 
Yeah, I had both, and they're quite bright and harsh.
 
But if you're doing studio work, you should be equalizing your headphones anyway. So a more important factor is how good it can be after effective equalization. (The 7506 sounds a lot better with Sonarworks, for example.)
 
My favorite closed headphone is the Yamaha HPH-MT220. Although it's a studio monitor headphone, the bass is boosted quite a bit, but unlike most other bass-heavy headphones, it has good clarity. To my ears, the MT220 easily beats all the other studio monitor headphones I have owned. (See profile.)
 
I have not heard the HD 600, but owned the HD 650.

 

[crafft]

Shure SRH1540 would be my vote. 

 

[MorrisL]

   
Yeah, I had both, and they're quite bright and harsh.
 
But if you're doing studio work, you should be equalizing your headphones anyway. So a more important factor is how good it can be after effective equalization. (The 7506 sounds a lot better with Sonarworks, for example.)
 
My favorite closed headphone is the Yamaha HPH-MT220. Although it's a studio monitor headphone, the bass is boosted quite a bit, but unlike most other bass-heavy headphones, it has good clarity. To my ears, the MT220 easily beats all the other studio monitor headphones I have owned. (See profile.)
 
I have not heard the HD 600, but owned the HD 650.

I recently auditioned the MT220 at a Yamaha store. They are pleasure cans... Not appropriate for mixing at all. I loved the sound though. 
 
I really don't want to equalize anything, Just like I don't with the HD 600. If I like my mix on the HD 600, it always sounds good on anything else. These things are so true, I don't even bother with studio monitors most of the time. 

 

[Music Alchemist]

  I recently auditioned the MT220 at a Yamaha store. They are pleasure cans... Not appropriate for mixing at all. I loved the sound though. 
 
I really don't want to equalize anything, Just like I don't with the HD 600. If I like my mix on the HD 600, it always sounds good on anything else. These things are so true, I don't even bother with studio monitors most of the time. 

 
I don't think any closed headphone is going to sound like the HD 600 without EQ.
 
The HD 650 and HD 600 measure very similarly in the frequency response. Fairly neutral, but a little warm and dark; not as neutral as the STAX SR-207.
 

Spoiler: measurements

http://cdn.head-fi.org/5/5a/5ac3a0cc_Sennheiser_HD_650.png
http://cdn.head-fi.org/6/6d/6de6f4f3_STAX_SR-207_EP-507_SB2217.png
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SennheiserHD600.pdf
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SennheiserHD650.pdf
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/StaxSR207EP507LeatherPadsSerNumSB22217.pdf
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/StaxSR207SB2217.pdf

 

[MorrisL]

   
I don't think any closed headphone is going to sound like the HD 600 without EQ.
 
The HD 650 and HD 600 measure very similarly in the frequency response. Fairly neutral, but a little warm and dark; not as neutral as the STAX SR-207.
 

Spoiler: measurements

http://cdn.head-fi.org/5/5a/5ac3a0cc_Sennheiser_HD_650.png
http://cdn.head-fi.org/6/6d/6de6f4f3_STAX_SR-207_EP-507_SB2217.png
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SennheiserHD600.pdf
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SennheiserHD650.pdf
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/StaxSR207EP507LeatherPadsSerNumSB22217.pdf
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/StaxSR207SB2217.pdf

I met a high-profile sound engineer last year and he said HD 600 is basically the headphone version of NS 10 monitors and he trusted HD 600 with no problem. He even mastered on it. 
 
I bought my HD 600's by his recommendation and, after carefully using them back and forth with my Alesis Monitors, I soon realized I could completely trust the Sennheisers. I only briefly turn on the monitors to check the reverb balances, and everything else could be done in those headphones, with no issues whatsoever. 
 
I have heard the HD 650's and yes they are similar, but the 650's are, again, pleasure cans. They're great for listening to music but for mixing/mastering, the lows have to be taken down a bit and the highs should be raised - basically eq-ed to sound like HD 600s!

 

[PurpleAngel]

  Thanks! It's not about it sounding "as good." I just want the sound signature to be as close as possible. Somebody recommended Shure SRH840 but another engineer I talked to said SRH440 should be even better, because they're more neutral. It's getting a little confusing. 
 
The MDR-V6 and 7506 are said to be top-heavy harsh sounding phones. I doubt they're going to sound anything like the HD600.

 
I'm not the expert.
But why do you need closed headphones for mixing, that also sound like the HD600?
For doing audio work (mixing, creation, production, etc), it would seem like you want headphones that are somewhat boring and neutral, headphones that do not have any biased.
Where as the HD600 may make decent headphone for audio production, the HD600 would really be the headphone you more likely to wear for audio enjoyment (end user).

 

[mn24viii]

I would have recommended the DT770 Pro 32 Ohm. But that's the pair you want to replace...

I really don't know why the DT770 250 are such classics for the studio. Way too much recessed mids. But the 32 ohm version, I find them to be much more balanced. And maybe the closest to the HD600 as Beyers can go.

That said, it may be impossible to find a pair that sounds really close to the HD600.

Maybe you can try the Focal spirit professional. They are very neutral.

 

[Music Alchemist]

Maybe you can try the Focal spirit professional. They are very neutral.

 
Nah. I had two of 'em. It's even warmer and darker than the HD 650.
 
http://cdn.head-fi.org/f/fe/fea59a67_Focal_Spirit_Professional_Frequency_Response_HRTF.png
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/FocalSpiritProfessional.pdf
 
As you can see, a significant chunk (heck, who am I kidding...nearly all of it!) of the mids and treble is sucked out. The bass follows the black line, which is the Harman curve. Most high-end headphones (including nearly all planar magnetics and electrostats) instead follow the green line in the bass, which is the diffuse field curve.
 
All that being said, the Spirit Pro is still the second best studio monitor headphone I have owned, and it sounds pretty awesome.

 

[Fearless1]

DT 150.

End thread

 

[MorrisL]

I would have recommended the DT770 Pro 32 Ohm. But that's the pair you want to replace...

I really don't know why the DT770 250 are such classics for the studio. Way too much recessed mids. But the 32 ohm version, I find them to be much more balanced. And maybe the closest to the HD600 as Beyers can go.
 

Did you compare the 250OHM and 32OHM and find the 32 was more balanced and didn't have the typical Beyer recessed mids?
 
I haven't heard the 250s but there hasn't been a single claim to that tune in the massive body of information I've read on these headphones.

 

[MorrisL]

I'm a little concerned about the comfort on DT 150, but might eventually give it a try.
 
Reading elsewhere on this site, I hear a lot about SRH440 and M40x being perfectly flat. I used to have the M40x but sold them unfortunately and don't even remember how they sounded.

 

[MorrisL]

   
I'm not the expert.
But why do you need closed headphones for mixing, that also sound like the HD600?
For doing audio work (mixing, creation, production, etc), it would seem like you want headphones that are somewhat boring and neutral, headphones that do not have any biased.
Where as the HD600 may make decent headphone for audio production, the HD600 would really be the headphone you more likely to wear for audio enjoyment (end user).

The HD 600s are pretty neutral, aren't they? They seem to be the most recommended alternative to using studio speakers. And I've spent countless hours researching.