Swiftfalcon
100+ Head-Fier
Mojo dac> jotunheim dac, haven't heard bifrost.
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Could you upgrade Modi to Bifrost? I didn't aware of that coz that are 2 different chassis and design.Now that I have owned the Mojo and Modi Multibit twice, I can say that I think the Mojo is more accurate in every way. (And, as far as I can tell, it measures better in every way as well.) Why am I mentioning the Modi Multibit in a thread about how the Bifrost Multibit compares? Because the only difference is the power supply. (And ability to upgrade the Bifrost Multibit in the future.)
Could you upgrade Modi to Bifrost? I didn't aware of that coz that are 2 different chassis and design.
As for Bifrost Multibit, it blew the Mojo, sounds more realistic, offers more features and more importantly future proof. The only downsize of it is the size. Transportable but not pocketable
And someone said A/B testing that SE on Bimby is identical that of Gumby on SE....Can't really trust someone until you try it out. I have a vanilla bifrost, not multibit nor uber. It has stood the test of time during my 2nd time owning Mojo with the Mojo sold afterward. The only thing good about Mojo is its mid; Otherwise, it fell short overall in every area compared to my Bifrost.I meant that the Bifrost Multibit has modular upgradeability, whereas the Modi Multibit does not.
Many say the Bifrost Multibit and Modi Multibit sound about the same. With my studio speakers, the Mojo sounds far more realistic to me than the Modi Multibit in every way. I guess opinions will differ based on preference, but from the hours of research I've done, it would appear that the Mojo measures better in every area too. (Timing accuracy, dynamic range, zero noise floor modulation, noise shaping, distortion, etc.)
And someone said A/B testing that SE on Bimby is identical that of Gumby on SE....Can't really trust someone until you try it out. I have a vanilla bifrost, not multibit nor uber. It has stood the test of time during my 2nd time owning Mojo with the Mojo sold afterward. The only thing good about Mojo is its mid; Otherwise, it fell short overall in every area compared to my Bifrost.
Mojo SE is close to Balance on DPX1 a near high end entry dap which I owned (now it has gone to mid-fi). The dap was more versatile and sound a bit more detailed thats why Mojo was sold, I like the pairing between the two just a different flavor but not an upgrade. When I got Mojo 2nd time in a trade, it was then compared with my QP1R and it failed hard...WM1A later on balance blew everything of QP1R except its current amp..
I don't trust measurement, buddy. Just like someone else kept using that to argue there would be no change of sound in higher quality cables. Hated that also when someone was arguing QP1R's amp section wasn't good enough compared to WM1Z on paper , on measurement but in fact, it beats the heck out of that 1z in practicality.
But ...you was a comparing a modi while I was using a bifrost so there is no point commenting on bifrost unless you have heard it. The modi as far as I know is as good as Bifrost. My headphone is HD800SD and I'm pretty sure it's source surgeon.I compared them as DACs only (not driving headphones) connected to powered speakers. So perhaps there was an issue with the headphone synergy in your case.
But ...you was a comparing a modi while I was using a bifrost so there is no point commenting on bifrost unless you have heard it. The modi as far as I know is as good as Bifrost. My headphone is HD800SD and I'm pretty sure it's source surgeon.
I just like Schiit's "live sound" (doesn't matter whether that's accurate sound or not for me) more than Mojo's smoother sound to my speakers (It makes me think Mojo is less resolving than Bifrost Multibit to my ears).
I did. Not sure which system you were mentioning. HD800 changes significantly if you feed it well. Go get yourself either Gumby/mj2 or Yiggy and see the night and day differencesI already mentioned that the Modi Multibit and Bifrost Multibit are the same aside from the power supply. And general consensus is that the multibit versions are better than the standard ones. (The Modi Multibit sounds a lot better than the Modi 2.)
Did you use the same external amp to compare the two DACs?
I've driven the HD 800 from the Mojo. Personally I'm not a fan of that headphone, no matter how much EQ it's given or how expensive the equipment is that you use with it. I've used it on systems that cost thousands and it barely sounded different than with the Mojo. In my experience, it's easier to compare DACs with speakers.
I did. Not sure which system you were mentioning. HD800 changed significantly if you feed it well. Go get yourself either Gumby/mj2 or Yiggy and see the night and day differences
the price is not always justified for the performance and you suggest this is the world best dac? Yiggy can compete with some at 40-50k , there are few of them in the world so the price is not always the only measurement point.The 430HAD ($4,300 and outputs up to 8 watts at 50 ohms) is the most expensive DAC/amp I've driven it with. Sounded almost the same as the Mojo with the HD 800.
the price is not always justified for the performance and you suggest this is the world best dac? Yiggy can compete with some at 40-50k , there are few of them in the world so the price is not always the only measurement point.
I did. Not sure which system you were mentioning. HD800 changes significantly if you feed it well. Go get yourself either Gumby/mj2 or Yiggy and see the night and day differences