Chord Mojo(1) DAC-amp ☆★►FAQ in 3rd post!◄★☆
Sep 23, 2016 at 8:10 PM Post #23,101 of 42,765
Personally I never run battery powered devices plugged in all the time. I've had too many lithium batteries lose capacity by doing this. Also, it's known that leaving a lithium battery near full charge for extended periods of time is very stressful for them. Chord has said it's fine to leave Mojo plugged in all the time, and I'm not about to debate that statement. I just would not do it myself. If I do use it in the desktop system I just run it off battery, unplugged, until it needs a charge.

I'd suggest contacting your retailer for warranty service regardless.


I agree with your take totally.  I have had a lot experience with lithium batteries and you are correct they will lose capacity.  We also had a rule of thumb from the mfgs. of high end lithium batteries that when not using them for awhile they should be stored at 60% capacity.  That is not relevant to the mojo situation and the batteries I am referring to cost more than the mojo themselves :)  .     If chord says you can leave it on charge all the time  so be it but I am personally  going to cycle mine occasionally.
 
Sep 23, 2016 at 10:57 PM Post #23,103 of 42,765
  Yes, the Mojo Chord drivers. Not quite what the recommended settings should be. I have allowed exclusive mode in the settings.
 
I guess this is what you are talking about?
 

 
 
Seems like it upsamples everything to the same frequency, any idea how to turn that off?

 
Pretty unoptimized bit and sample rate IMO. I always leave everything on 16 bit 44.1 KHz and use ASIO.
 
Sep 24, 2016 at 12:03 AM Post #23,104 of 42,765
This might seem like a trivial problem, but the color of the power ball does not change color based on sampling frequency. I have tried it with Foobar, Vlc, Mediamonkey and a few other players. Any idea what might cause this? I have already installed the drivers for W7 from the official website.

Except this the Mojo is excellent, I do hear a slight hiss with my shure Se846 but not enough to complain about =)


The driver is just a communication tool to re-send packets over USB if there are errors and for device recognition. The sampling rate needs to be set from the playback software to pass through the file's sampling rate. I don't use any Windows software to listen to music, but your search should be for software that has a bit perfect setting.
 
Sep 24, 2016 at 3:26 AM Post #23,105 of 42,765
this weekend took out lot of old DVD and Blu-rays and playing them through Mojo.
 
as far as the sound is concerned, those old DVD's now sound superb.
 
The opening scene (bank robbery) of the Dark Knight, the initial attack of various sounds is very realistic, and Bon Jovi unplugged "this left feels right" the various unplugged instruments sound very realistic, and further more I can easily hear the energy and intentions of the musicians. I have heard Jon Bon Jovi's vocals live and they sounded great to me, but on non ordinary DACs they sound off, as if he has a permanent cold. Now with Mojo, he sounds much better, just as I heard him in concert !
 
The Mojo is superb, Rpb Watts really knows what he is doing, the most important aspect of Sound quality is the timing of transients. Everything played on the Mojo just sounds "right" to my ears now.
 
Sep 24, 2016 at 6:27 AM Post #23,107 of 42,765
 
SysConcept is generally the go-to source for specialist ultra-short toslink cables, for most head-fiers.

http://www.sysconcept.ca/


Thank you do you know ow of any other reliable sources for these at all?

Regards

Mark

 
 
I'm not saying there are no other reliable sources, but, as someone who has followed every single page of this thread, since it began, a year ago, I can honestly say that, by a country mile, the general consensus of opinion is that, for super-short toslink cables, appropriate for low-profile stacking Mojo with other devices, SysConcept is the first port of call, even if you don't live in the USA.
 
Sep 24, 2016 at 9:49 AM Post #23,108 of 42,765
One more quick question is the optical in port on these not such a great fit with in even gaps to the frame. As whilst looking for a r second hand bargains I've seen a few where the fit isn't too great or that's what it seems visually. Even if it sounds as people say I can't abide that sort of thing especially with the cost.
 
Sep 24, 2016 at 10:44 AM Post #23,109 of 42,765
One more quick question is the optical in port on these not such a great fit with in even gaps to the frame. As whilst looking for a r second hand bargains I've seen a few where the fit isn't too great or that's what it seems visually. Even if it sounds as people say I can't abide that sort of thing especially with the cost.

 
Clarify what you mean by the 'cost' - is that the cost of the mojo, or the cost of the second hand cables?
 
Sep 24, 2016 at 10:48 AM Post #23,110 of 42,765
Clarify what you mean by the 'cost' - is that the cost of the mojo, or the cost of the second hand cables?

Clarifying for you as in the gaps especially notable from the pictures I've seen especially round the optical port, uneven spacing making the fitment look poor. It may well be an optical illusion from pictures I've seen but for the cost of the mojo you'd expect a snug fit. That's what I'm asking g and now clarifying.
 
Sep 24, 2016 at 11:32 AM Post #23,111 of 42,765
Clarifying for you as in the gaps especially notable from the pictures I've seen especially round the optical port, uneven spacing making the fitment look poor. It may well be an optical illusion from pictures I've seen but for the cost of the mojo you'd expect a snug fit. That's what I'm asking g and now clarifying.

 
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From an engineering viewpoint, everything inside the Mojo will have a manufacturing tolerance and then an assembly tolerance (even if each individual tolerance is only 0.1mm (as an example)).
 
So taking the geometry of the case as the datum:
  • the PCB can be manufactured to a tolerance of 0.1mm and then positioned inside the case with a tolerance of 0.1mm (making 0.2mm in total)
  • the socket (USB or optical) can be manufactured to a tolerance of 0.1mm and then positioned onto the PCB with a tolerance of 0.1mm (making 0.2mm in total) 
  • the hole in the case can itself be machined with a tolerance of 0.1mm
  • Overall the variability in position between an individual hole and an individual socket becomes 0.5 mm (ie 0.2mm + 0.2mm + 0.1mm) . This stacking of tolerances will apply to every equipment supplier.
 
If you look at a sample of Mojos, the gaps that can be seen around each socket will be different, but they will not be all identical, and 0.0 mm. This does not mean that Chord use bad manufacturing or assembly practices.
 
I wish you much enjoyment in your search for a cheap DAC that beats the Mojo in terms of sound quality and assembly/manufacturing tolerances. You will find it an interesting experience. 
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Sep 24, 2016 at 11:38 AM Post #23,112 of 42,765
  Yes, the Mojo Chord drivers. Not quite what the recommended settings should be. I have allowed exclusive mode in the settings.
 
I guess this is what you are talking about?
 

 
 
Seems like it upsamples everything to the same frequency, any idea how to turn that off?

 
The easiest thing to do is use a player that can use WASAPI exclusive mode- then the player is allowed to dictate the sample rate. If it's in shared mode, then Windows usually sample rate converts everything to a common rate so it can be mixed- which is what you don't want.
 
Foobar2000 is free and straightforward, and will do WASAPI exclusive mode, if you don't already have a player in mind. Hope that helps.
 
I just double-checked to make sure that I am not talking crap- set my Windows defaults to 192kHz, and the power light on the Mojo went the appropriate colour (blue I think? I forget) during playback of the test tones. However, as soon as Foobar started playing, it snapped back to red for 44.1kHz, which was correct for the source audio (a lossless redbook file).
 
(Note that I'm not actually using the Chord USB driver for this, though, just the onboard sound on my motherboard over TOSlink- but if it didn't behave the same with the Chord USB drivers, then something would be badly wrong.)
 
Sep 24, 2016 at 11:49 AM Post #23,113 of 42,765
Clarifying for you as in the gaps especially notable from the pictures I've seen especially round the optical port, uneven spacing making the fitment look poor. It may well be an optical illusion from pictures I've seen but for the cost of the mojo you'd expect a snug fit. That's what I'm asking g and now clarifying.

 
I see what you are talking about. The optical port is firmly mounted on the inside (PCB board) so that it is NOT loose.
 

 
The gap you see is between port and the outer shell. There has been no reports/complaints of any fitment issues regarding the optical port. You can buy with confidence.
 
Sep 24, 2016 at 11:55 AM Post #23,114 of 42,765
The Mojo outperforms DACs costing several times as much, in terms of sound quality and musical enjoyment, and you are quibbling about gaps around the sockets! 

From an engineering viewpoint, everything inside the Mojo will have a manufacturing tolerance and then an assembly tolerance (even if each individual tolerance is only 0.1mm).
So taking the geometry of the case as the datum:
  1. the PCB can be manufactured to a tolerance of 0.1mm and then positioned inside the case with a tolerance of 0.1mm (making 0.2mm in total)
  2. the USB socket can be manufactured to a tolerance of 0.1mm and then positioned onto the PCB with a tolerance of 0.1mm (making 0.2mm in total) 
  3. the hole in the case can itself be machined with a tolerance of 0.1mm
  4. Overall the variability in position between an individual hole and an individual USB socket becomes 0.5 mm (ie 0.2mm + 0.2mm + 0.1mm) 

The gaps you see for each socket will be different, but they will not be all identical, and 0.0 mm

I wish you much enjoyment in your search for a cheap DAC that beats the Mojo in terms of sound quality and assembly/manufacturing tolerances. You will find it an interesting experience. 
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Well regardless of an obvious fan boy approach to an honest question. These so called gaps you try to explain away that are obviously present due to the defensive explaining away nature of your post don't seem to be a problem with other manufacturers. Granted it seems a marvel to listen to but for the cost shouldn't the end product be a lot better put together precision fit wise. Anyway this isn't obviously the post to ask honest questions that heaven forbid taint a fan boys opinion. I've seen it a few times here whilst browsing now. Note to self don't ask honest questions in case a fan boy takes offence. Oh and mind the gap :wink:
 
Sep 24, 2016 at 12:12 PM Post #23,115 of 42,765
Hello all,

any idea when sd card module will be out ? in 2/4/6/10 months ?
Or may be 2018 ?
 

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