Well, so far and to my knowledge , no DAC has had a firmware update.
Be it in-house, outhouse, usb or internet.
Think about it, Mojo2 is almost a Mojo classic with firmware update.
Same Usb chip, same FPGA, almost same output section.
Chord Mojo 2 Thread ___ [product released January 31, 2022 -- starting on page 95 of thread]
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Be it in-house, outhouse, usb or internet.
Think about it, Mojo2 is almost a Mojo classic with firmware update.
Same Usb chip, same FPGA, almost same output section.
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It would have to be returned to Chord. But as noted above, no Chord DAC has actually had a firmware update in lieu of a new model.
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There have been revisions, but afaik they do not offer older customers the new firmware. E.g. my OG mojo has auto off and firmware 1.0.5 IIRC. Auto off was introduced after the initial launch.
Nostoi
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Testing now, here's my observations (no EQ/filters involved here):Please tell us more
1. On IEMs - in my case, IE900 - the difference between Hugo 2 and Mojo 2 is rather subtle. Hugo 2 has better micro-detail, better layering, better imaging, but the difference on a technical level is notably closer than between Hugo 2 and Mojo OG. Hugo 2 hits harder - has better dynamics - than Mojo 2, and generally has more of an authoritative feel.
2. Bigger differences come into play with full-size headphones that are moderately hard to drive. On the ZMF VC, there's no doubt that the Mojo 2 can drive with some headroom to spare. But the Hugo 2 offers a more defined presentation, with a greater sense of space. Mojo 2 has a sight "softness" in comparison, where separation especially isn't as precise (though I have to say again, it's a marked improvement on Mojo OG). I'm also comparing this on my TT2, incidentally, and as you might expect - there's a continuity with Hugo 2 and Mojo 2, but TT2 offers a level of micro-detail and clarity that is lacking on the others.
3. In terms of timbre/tonality, this was interesting. With the VC, my preferred source is Hugo 2 by far. The Hugo 2 has a super clean presentation which works especially well with warmer headphones, I find. The Mojo 2's timbre is close to Hugo 2, but it's nowhere as forward as Hugo 2. Mojo 2 has a slightly smoother/rounder top-end, whereas Hugo 2 is ultra-energetic in comparison. I'm a big fan of pairing Hugo 2 with tube amps; this is where the Hugo 2's magic really comes to the foreground, IMO. Some will likely prefer Mojo 2's slightly more cohesive timbre, I expect. The TT2 tonality is interesting - it has more body than Mojo 2 and Hugo 2. The overall presentation is more refined, more subtle than Hugo 2. On brighter headphones - Kennerton Rognir/HD800s - the TT2 is by far the "winner" in terms of synergy. The lower end body gives a tremendous sense of body that is not as evident in Hugo 2 or Mojo 2.
In sum: Mojo 2, Hugo 2, and TT2 are - IMO - mutually edifying and complementary. And, of course, they each serve a different function. They share the same Chord signature, but present in different ways and with varying levels of technical excellence. Placing the Mojo 2 against even the TT2, it's impressive how well the former fairs. I remember doing multiple tests with Mojo OG, and it felt like a huge step downward switching between TT2/Hugo 2 to Mojo OG. The Mojo 2 holds its ground with ease. It's an amazing achievement.
Excellent write-up. It's sounds like the Mojo 2, although very improved, still sits behind the Hugo 2 in sonics. It seems like the Chord hierarchy remains in tack for now!Testing now, here's my observations (no EQ/filters involved here):
1. On IEMs - in my case, IE900 - the difference between Hugo 2 and Mojo 2 is rather subtle. Hugo 2 has better micro-detail, better layering, better imaging, but the difference on a technical level is notably closer than between Hugo 2 and Mojo OG. Hugo 2 hits harder - has better dynamics - than Mojo 2, and generally has more of an authoritative feel.
2. Bigger differences come into play with full-size headphones that are moderately hard to drive. On the ZMF VC, there's no doubt that the Mojo 2 can drive with some headroom to spare. But the Hugo 2 offers a more defined presentation, with a greater sense of space. Mojo 2 has a sight "softness" in comparison, where separation especially isn't as precise (though I have to say again, it's a marked improvement on Mojo OG). I'm also comparing this on my TT2, incidentally, and as you might expect - there's a continuity with Hugo 2 and Mojo 2, but TT2 offers a level of micro-detail and clarity that is lacking on the others.
3. In terms of timbre/tonality, this was interesting. With the VC, my preferred source is Hugo 2 by far. The Hugo 2 has a super clean presentation which works especially well with warmer headphones, I find. The Mojo 2's timbre is close to Hugo 2, but it's nowhere as forward as Hugo 2. Mojo 2 has a slightly smoother/rounder top-end, whereas Hugo 2 is ultra-energetic in comparison. I'm a big fan of pairing Hugo 2 with tube amps; this is where the Hugo 2's magic really comes to the foreground, IMO. Some will likely prefer Mojo 2's slightly more cohesive timbre, I expect. The TT2 tonality is interesting - it has more body than Mojo 2 and Hugo 2. The overall presentation is more refined, more subtle than Hugo 2. On brighter headphones - Kennerton Rognir/HD800s - the TT2 is by far the "winner" in terms of synergy. The lower end body gives a tremendous sense of body that is not as evident in Hugo 2 or Mojo 2.
In sum: Mojo 2, Hugo 2, and TT2 are - IMO - mutually edifying and complementary. And, of course, they each serve a different function. They share the same Chord signature, but present in different ways and with varying levels of technical excellence. Placing the Mojo 2 against even the TT2, it's impressive how well the former fairs. I remember doing multiple tests with Mojo OG, and it felt like a huge step downward switching between TT2/Hugo 2 to Mojo OG. The Mojo 2 holds its ground with ease. It's an amazing achievement.
Testing now, here's my observations (no EQ/filters involved here):
1. On IEMs - in my case, IE900 - the difference between Hugo 2 and Mojo 2 is rather subtle. Hugo 2 has better micro-detail, better layering, better imaging, but the difference on a technical level is notably closer than between Hugo 2 and Mojo OG. Hugo 2 hits harder - has better dynamics - than Mojo 2, and generally has more of an authoritative feel.
2. Bigger differences come into play with full-size headphones that are moderately hard to drive. On the ZMF VC, there's no doubt that the Mojo 2 can drive with some headroom to spare. But the Hugo 2 offers a more defined presentation, with a greater sense of space. Mojo 2 has a sight "softness" in comparison, where separation especially isn't as precise (though I have to say again, it's a marked improvement on Mojo OG). I'm also comparing this on my TT2, incidentally, and as you might expect - there's a continuity with Hugo 2 and Mojo 2, but TT2 offers a level of micro-detail and clarity that is lacking on the others.
3. In terms of timbre/tonality, this was interesting. With the VC, my preferred source is Hugo 2 by far. The Hugo 2 has a super clean presentation which works especially well with warmer headphones, I find. The Mojo 2's timbre is close to Hugo 2, but it's nowhere as forward as Hugo 2. Mojo 2 has a slightly smoother/rounder top-end, whereas Hugo 2 is ultra-energetic in comparison. I'm a big fan of pairing Hugo 2 with tube amps; this is where the Hugo 2's magic really comes to the foreground, IMO. Some will likely prefer Mojo 2's slightly more cohesive timbre, I expect. The TT2 tonality is interesting - it has more body than Mojo 2 and Hugo 2. The overall presentation is more refined, more subtle than Hugo 2. On brighter headphones - Kennerton Rognir/HD800s - the TT2 is by far the "winner" in terms of synergy. The lower end body gives a tremendous sense of body that is not as evident in Hugo 2 or Mojo 2.
In sum: Mojo 2, Hugo 2, and TT2 are - IMO - mutually edifying and complementary. And, of course, they each serve a different function. They share the same Chord signature, but present in different ways and with varying levels of technical excellence. Placing the Mojo 2 against even the TT2, it's impressive how well the former fairs. I remember doing multiple tests with Mojo OG, and it felt like a huge step downward switching between TT2/Hugo 2 to Mojo OG. The Mojo 2 holds its ground with ease. It's an amazing achievement.
Totally agree with everything you have said.Testing now, here's my observations (no EQ/filters involved here):
1. On IEMs - in my case, IE900 - the difference between Hugo 2 and Mojo 2 is rather subtle. Hugo 2 has better micro-detail, better layering, better imaging, but the difference on a technical level is notably closer than between Hugo 2 and Mojo OG. Hugo 2 hits harder - has better dynamics - than Mojo 2, and generally has more of an authoritative feel.
2. Bigger differences come into play with full-size headphones that are moderately hard to drive. On the ZMF VC, there's no doubt that the Mojo 2 can drive with some headroom to spare. But the Hugo 2 offers a more defined presentation, with a greater sense of space. Mojo 2 has a sight "softness" in comparison, where separation especially isn't as precise (though I have to say again, it's a marked improvement on Mojo OG). I'm also comparing this on my TT2, incidentally, and as you might expect - there's a continuity with Hugo 2 and Mojo 2, but TT2 offers a level of micro-detail and clarity that is lacking on the others.
3. In terms of timbre/tonality, this was interesting. With the VC, my preferred source is Hugo 2 by far. The Hugo 2 has a super clean presentation which works especially well with warmer headphones, I find. The Mojo 2's timbre is close to Hugo 2, but it's nowhere as forward as Hugo 2. Mojo 2 has a slightly smoother/rounder top-end, whereas Hugo 2 is ultra-energetic in comparison. I'm a big fan of pairing Hugo 2 with tube amps; this is where the Hugo 2's magic really comes to the foreground, IMO. Some will likely prefer Mojo 2's slightly more cohesive timbre, I expect. The TT2 tonality is interesting - it has more body than Mojo 2 and Hugo 2. The overall presentation is more refined, more subtle than Hugo 2. On brighter headphones - Kennerton Rognir/HD800s - the TT2 is by far the "winner" in terms of synergy. The lower end body gives a tremendous sense of body that is not as evident in Hugo 2 or Mojo 2.
In sum: Mojo 2, Hugo 2, and TT2 are - IMO - mutually edifying and complementary. And, of course, they each serve a different function. They share the same Chord signature, but present in different ways and with varying levels of technical excellence. Placing the Mojo 2 against even the TT2, it's impressive how well the former fairs. I remember doing multiple tests with Mojo OG, and it felt like a huge step downward switching between TT2/Hugo 2 to Mojo OG. The Mojo 2 holds its ground with ease. It's an amazing achievement.
I find the Mojo 2 a absolute joy for a portable dac/amp.
Nostoi
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Thanks, glad it's helpful. I would say so, yup. Mojo 2 is definitely best bang for the buck, I will say.
You'll have to let us know where the Dave vs. Mojo 2 showdown fits in!
Haha, is that really fair!
vlach
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The M2 must be nice with the WA8 yeah?My Saturday evening all set.
Little one in bed and music playing
Alan Billington
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Surely Dave vs Mojo 2 + Mscaler be more meaningful
In so many ways it should not would and fits No use case but hey that’s what Saturday night testing is for!I no longer have the WA8.
I sold it when I bought a TT2 .
I used the WA8 along with a Hugo 2.
I still wish I kept the WA8 but found I used the Vorzuge Pure ii+ more often .
The WA8 is a great sounding amp.
I even used it as a pre amp for a vinyl set up for a few years.
It embarrassed some quite expensive preamps.
Nostoi
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Pairs beautifully, as does C9 and Mojo2.
For those who like classical music, I find this album both: great recording and demonstration of Mojo 2 capabilities, especially when you want to expose most if not all of this little marvel strengths. It also shows that Mojo 2 can be great even for very critical listening longer sessions and it can easily compete with a lot more expensive dacs and amps.
Perfect, what is your streamer and what headphones are you using?For those who like classical music, I find this album both: great recording and demonstration of Mojo 2 capabilities, especially when you want to expose most if not all of this little marvel strengths. It also shows that Mojo 2 can be great even for very critical listening longer sessions and it can easily compete with a lot more expensive dacs and amps.
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