Chord Mojo 2 Thread ___ [product released January 31, 2022 -- starting on page 95 of thread]

Mar 22, 2022 at 7:32 PM Post #3,316 of 12,441
We'll see tomorrow, when I will get the BTA30 Pro. The reason I got it is that I want Bluetooth indoors, while I am moving inside my property doing various things. For now, I am using my FiiO UTWS5. It's fine but goes up to aptX Adaptive only. My Qudelix-5K can do LDAC + PEQ. I'm not sure if the BTA30 Pro can connect, somehow, with my XBOX Series S, I don't think so. It cannot even connect "properly" to the UTWS5, it cannot control play/pause or next/previous song...

Yeah, Qobuz might be a different story when used with UAPP on Android, it supports bit-perfect then. I'll get it tomorrow, and I will then listen to a few songs from there, and then the same from Amazon HD, at 48 kHz. I am curious if I will be able to hear a difference. Don't envy me. I'm paying Amazon Prime, Video, Music, I even had an Audible subscription for 2 years. Yet, I'm mostly listening to YouTube free because the DJ sets I'm dying for, are not available anywhere else.

Yeah, Rob designed the Mojo 2 so the charging is separate from data, so I need a longer charging cable to reach my Multiple Plug Power Strip

Thank you
Have you checked out Soundcloud and Bandcamp? Some very new stuff lands on these two.
 
Mar 23, 2022 at 8:33 AM Post #3,317 of 12,441
Thank you for your reply, so to clarify, by in-house, do you mean that in an eventual firmware update we would have to return the units to Chord? Or, the device can accept a firmware update over USB?
The type of FPGA used in the mojo stores its configuration in SRAM , and is loaded into the device on power up. I presume that the FPGA code is stored in the microcontroller's non-volatile storage and transferred to the FPGA. Chord probably have the ability to update all of the embedded software, including the FPGA code, but as others have said, I don't think they have ever done this for units in the field.
 
Mar 23, 2022 at 9:49 AM Post #3,319 of 12,441
The type of FPGA used in the mojo stores its configuration in SRAM , and is loaded into the device on power up. I presume that the FPGA code is stored in the microcontroller's non-volatile storage and transferred to the FPGA. Chord probably have the ability to update all of the embedded software, including the FPGA code, but as others have said, I don't think they have ever done this for units in the field.
Thanks for your reply, good to know 👍
 
Mar 23, 2022 at 11:05 AM Post #3,320 of 12,441
Just got mine delivered!
Well actually this morning, ordered with Richer Sounds in UK for £450, free one and half day delivery (that's how long it took).
- First things first, I don't think build quality is up to Mojo Classic standards! the classic had precision shells that match perfectly together, if assembled carefully, you could close your eyes and run back of your nail over the joints and not feel anything! with Mojo2 ? not so much.
Don't get me wrong, I am not complaining, just comparing.
- The Menu and learning the controls was a doddle for me, took about a couple of minutes, I know it by heart now, no problem what so ever. If you are hesitant about this issue, have it from me, it is no issue.
- It has a wife button!
When I put the headphones on, my wife takes pleasure in waving her hand to make me stop and listen to her - now I can quickly Mute with one sausage finger of mine, Lovely . . .
- Praise and congratulations are due for transparency of the EQ system. I hear no drop in sound quality using it at any level, wonderful, it Does Work!
- Gets as warm as the Classic, has the same power, drives my Hifiman Edition XS easily.
- Sounds very smooth, cultured, musical . . . what you expect from a Chord DAC.
- It is NOT a Hugo2 killer! nor a replacer.
In case anyone was wondering, it is not far off. Indeed many DACs are not far off Hugo2 - it is just that Hugo2 has a bag-full of fairy dust in its pocket that so far, I have not found on any other DAC .
What is it? ...... ..... Sound Stage! It is the most 3D sounding DAC ever.
Mojo2 sounds (in comparison) as though you have enabled crossfeed. The type that kills most of the stereo. BUT ONLY when compared to Hugo2, otherwise, sound image is slightly better than Mojo Classic, slightly!
It also has better Bass definition than the Classic, but not the same class as Hugo2 (I am listening to Mojo2 as I jot this down).
Imagine you get Hugo2, strip away a bit of the stereo image height and width, seperation of instruments and make it a bit light-weight (less meat on the bones) and you are close to Mojo2.
On a good recording (Jordi Savall - Beethoven 7th 24/88.2) there is a slow beating bass with violins on top, with Hugo2 the bass is encompassing and deep, and when things get rough, the bass and the violins remain seperate and locked in their space, with Mojo2 the bass is not as big or deep and when things get rough, it feels as though the bass gets modulated into the violins and things do not remain in their place. Again I am comparing it to a Goliath!
Compared to the competition that I have heard (Including Mojo Classic and Hugo2) , it is well worth the price.
Mojo Classic was (is) a beast to improve! Mojo2 does it, mostly on extra facilities and a little better Bass and odd improvements here nor there. The Classic is still a wonderful DAC at its new used-price category - it kills any of the competition at around £200+ .
 
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Mar 23, 2022 at 11:19 AM Post #3,321 of 12,441
Just got mine delivered!
Well actually this morning, ordered with Richer Sounds in UK for £450, free one and half day delivery (that's how long it took).
- First things first, I don't think build quality is up to Mojo Classic standards! the classic had precision shells that match perfectly together, if assembled carefully, you could close your eyes and run back of your nail over the joints and not feel anything! with Mojo2 ? not so much.
Don't get me wrong, I am not complaining, just comparing.
- The Menu and learning the controls was a doddle for me, took about a couple of minutes, I know it by heart now, no problem what so ever. If you are hesitant about this issue, have it from me, it is no issue.
- It has a wife button!
When I put the headphones on, my wife takes pleasure in waving her hand to make me stop and listen to her - now I can quickly Mute with one sausage finger of mine, Lovely . . .
- Praise and congratulations are due for transparency of the EQ system. I hear no drop in sound quality using it at any level, wonderful, it Does Work!
- Gets as warm as the Classic, has the same power, drives my Hifiman Edition XS easily.
- Sounds very smooth, cultured, musical . . . what you expect from a Chord DAC.
- It is NOT a Hugo2 killer! nor a replacer.
In case anyone was wondering, it is not far off. Indeed many DACs are not far off Hugo2 - it is just that Hugo2 has a bag-full of fairy dust in its pocket that so far, I have not found on any other DAC .
What is it? ...... ..... Sound Stage! It is the most 3D sounding DAC ever.
Mojo2 sounds (in comparison) as though you have enabled crossfeed. The type that kills most of the stereo. BUT ONLY when compared to Hugo2, otherwise, sound image is slightly better than Mojo Classic, slightly!
It also has better Bass definition than the Classic, but not the same class as Hugo2 (I am listening to Mojo2 as I jot this down).
Imagine you get Hugo2, strip away a bit of the stereo image height and width, seperation of instruments and make it a bit light-weight (less meat on the bones) and you are close to Mojo2.
On a good recording (Jordi Savall - Beethoven 7th 24/88.2) there is a slow beating bass with violins on top, with Hugo2 the bass is encompassing and deep, and when things get rough, the bass and the violins remain seperate and locked in their space, with Mojo2 the bass is not as big or deep and when things get rough, it feels as though the bass gets modulated into the violins and things do not remain in their place. Again I am comparing it to a Goliath!
Compared to the competition that I have heard (Including Mojo Classic and Hugo2) , it is well worth the price.
I have tt2 with m scaler. I had Hugo 2 and original mojo earlier. To me mojo 2 has more refinement than even Hugo 2, as per my memory. It is surprisingly close to tt2 in terms of refinement. Though the difference may be more revealing with power hungry headphones as tt2 has more power. May be with m scaler the difference will be even less. To me mojo 2 with headphones like hd650, hd800s, hd600 and r70x can kill even the most expensive headphones systems including very expensive desktop systems, it is such a game changer dac/headphone amp.
 
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Mar 23, 2022 at 1:01 PM Post #3,322 of 12,441
I have tt2 with m scaler. I had Hugo 2 and original mojo earlier. To me mojo 2 has more refinement than even Hugo 2, as per my memory. It is surprisingly close to tt2 in terms of refinement. Though the difference may be more revealing with power hungry headphones as tt2 has more power. May be with m scaler the difference will be even less. To me mojo 2 with headphones like hd650, hd800s, hd600 and r70x can kill even the most expensive headphones systems including very expensive desktop systems, it is such a game changer dac/headphone amp.
Hi rkt31, could you describe the different strengths and shortcomings of your listed headphones in combination with Mojo2? Hope I’m not asking for too much work.
 
Mar 23, 2022 at 1:28 PM Post #3,323 of 12,441
Hi rkt31, could you describe the different strengths and shortcomings of your listed headphones in combination with Mojo2? Hope I’m not asking for too much work.
I use he400se and r70x with it. Today experimented a bit with EQ for he400se. + 1 click 20hz and - 2 clicks 20khz led to ultimate sonic Nirvana which I never experienced earlier not even with tt2 and m scaler, may be due to this EQ feature of mojo 2. With R70X I did not try EQ but I will try tomorrow. Even without EQ R70X was extremely musical, a bit on warmer side. May be + 1 click on treble shelf EQ with r70x will balance out the things. I would say rob watts has created miracle product in the form of mojo 2.
 
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Mar 23, 2022 at 2:47 PM Post #3,324 of 12,441
I have tt2 with m scaler. I had Hugo 2 and original mojo earlier. To me mojo 2 has more refinement than even Hugo 2, as per my memory. It is surprisingly close to tt2 in terms of refinement. Though the difference may be more revealing with power hungry headphones as tt2 has more power. May be with m scaler the difference will be even less. To me mojo 2 with headphones like hd650, hd800s, hd600 and r70x can kill even the most expensive headphones systems including very expensive desktop systems, it is such a game changer dac/headphone amp.
Perhaps I could persuade you to do a swap with me, I get you 2, no, three New Mojo2's for your TT2. 😊😊
 
Mar 24, 2022 at 3:00 AM Post #3,327 of 12,441
Tried mojo 2 with r70x. +3 clicks for 20hz and +1 click on treble shelf seems to make the sound more linear, balanced and life like. Swapping he400se and r70x with their respective EQ clearly exhibited the faster bass of r70x may be due to higher impedance of 470ohm. Imo EQ feature of mojo 2 if used correctly "just enough" to make the response flat, can do wonders. Kudos to rob watts for this lossless EQ feature.
 
Mar 24, 2022 at 3:28 AM Post #3,329 of 12,441
Without having to use the apple camera connector dongle on iphone?
If you have a poly, no CCK needed. Airplay works flawlessly with the Mojo 2.
 
Mar 24, 2022 at 7:16 AM Post #3,330 of 12,441
If you have a poly, no CCK needed. Airplay works flawlessly with the Mojo 2.
But limitation of Airplay is 16 bit 44.1Khz, right?
 

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