Chord Mojo 2 Thread ___ [product released January 31, 2022 -- starting on page 95 of thread]

Mar 8, 2022 at 10:34 PM Post #3,061 of 12,410
Any idea about burn in time ? Sound signature is of very relaxed nature. Vocals have a kind of " stress free " quality to it. More holographic and better depth perception than original mojo. Vocals are intimate and kind of communicating directly to you. I tried with r70x and orange volume was enough for most songs, indicating plenty of output by mojo 2. R70x is such a gem of headphones that with mojo 2 it can put to shame many Uber ultra expensive dac+headphone set up to shame. I tried with uapp android bit perfect usb input and xduoo X10 optical out, worked flawlessly. EQ is so so clean that you think the song has just changed the tonality as if the effect was in the recording itself. Any idea why strapping rubber bands were not supplied ?
No rubber bands because (my theory) the case is a bit simpler in the cutouts and without the band grooves to save money and also they would prefer Poly as the source to feed it.
 
Mar 8, 2022 at 10:36 PM Post #3,062 of 12,410
EQ is so so clean that you think the song has just changed the tonality as if the effect was in the recording itself.
Well said!
 
Mar 9, 2022 at 2:36 AM Post #3,063 of 12,410
Any idea about burn in time ? Sound signature is of very relaxed nature. Vocals have a kind of " stress free " quality to it. More holographic and better depth perception than original mojo. Vocals are intimate and kind of communicating directly to you. I tried with r70x and orange volume was enough for most songs, indicating plenty of output by mojo 2. R70x is such a gem of headphones that with mojo 2 it can put to shame many Uber ultra expensive dac+headphone set up to shame. I tried with uapp android bit perfect usb input and xduoo X10 optical out, worked flawlessly. EQ is so so clean that you think the song has just changed the tonality as if the effect was in the recording itself. Any idea why strapping rubber bands were not supplied ?
Give it 40-50 hours, mine settled a little (smoother, cleaner sounding). There's also brain burn in sure, but I feel it's more than that (I have my other sources which I use to set checkpoints)

Also - in my view it likes a little warmup play time to settle too (can sound a little harsh from cold).
 
Mar 9, 2022 at 2:38 AM Post #3,064 of 12,410
Can anyone chime in about the Poly + Mojo sound quality wise:

say vs a high quality optical output, or a usb decrapifier like ifi iusb micro 3.. is the Poly the ultimate upgrade (sound quality wise) for the Mojo as a source?

If say it's not much better soundwise than a small DAP attached to the Mojo, I might just save my money
 
Mar 9, 2022 at 3:04 AM Post #3,065 of 12,410
Can anyone chime in about the Poly + Mojo sound quality wise:

say vs a high quality optical output, or a usb decrapifier like ifi iusb micro 3.. is the Poly the ultimate upgrade (sound quality wise) for the Mojo as a source?

If say it's not much better soundwise than a small DAP attached to the Mojo, I might just save my money
Well all that depends on how well they have implemented noise rejection, clock they are using to reclock and send jitter free signal to Mojo. If all those things like better reclocking the signal and noise rejection is still upto Mojo then it may just be a device that let you stream things into Mojo.
 
Mar 9, 2022 at 3:38 AM Post #3,066 of 12,410
Well all that depends on how well they have implemented noise rejection, clock they are using to reclock and send jitter free signal to Mojo. If all those things like better reclocking the signal and noise rejection is still upto Mojo then it may just be a device that let you stream things into Mojo.

Yes theres bunch of factors as well as synergy. I've read few different opinions about the Poly but no one compared it to other sources.
 
Mar 9, 2022 at 3:43 AM Post #3,067 of 12,410
I, as well, am waiting not only for comparisons between the Poly and other sources but, more importantly, between the Mojo 2 and the ifi Gryphon, and other sources.
 
Mar 9, 2022 at 3:43 AM Post #3,068 of 12,410
Yes theres bunch of factors as well as synergy. I've read few different opinions about the Poly but no one compared it to other sources.
Since it only works with Mojo so very few comparison. But as far as desktop streamer goes like cheap HAT for Pi or ifi streamer or various DDC like Singxer SU6/ Denafrips/ Gustard/SoTM which are cheaper then poly they all have high quality galvanic isolation for noise rejection, very good clock, some have linear power supply and verious output like AES/RCA/BNC coax, SPDIF, I2S but ya they all are desktop solution.
 
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Mar 9, 2022 at 4:05 AM Post #3,069 of 12,410
My early impressions of the Mojo 2: The location of the USB-C port is really nervous and I suspect it will break. The Mojo 2 I/O design is so odd that it is more of a step backwards than backwards compatible— it’s a lose-lose situation even for Poly owners. The four button interface isn’t intuitive, especially for accessing the EQ or dimmer without the handbook. At this point Chord needs to move on from the multicolor illuminated buttons and find a new design as the settings become more complex. The differences in sound quality are subtle and I think reviews claiming big differences are more to do with post-purchase rationalization. In all, the Mojo 2 is a lateral move at best and I honestly find the original Mojo sounds more full and dynamic. It feels like Rob Watts’ potential to design a great device was stifled by John Franks’ insistence it work with the Poly and they simply wanted to reboot sales. So why did I purchase the Mojo 2? Because I’m gifting my original Mojo and HD600s to a loved one.

For what it’s worth, the FiiO LT-LT1 may not be properly shielded and I perceived a brighter sound (RF noise)-- though this may be related to the Mojo 2’s quirky USB-C Implementation which may be susceptible to RF since it acts as a foot.

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Mar 9, 2022 at 4:06 AM Post #3,070 of 12,410
I, as well, am waiting not only for comparisons between the Poly and other sources but, more importantly, between the Mojo 2 and the ifi Gryphon, and other sources.
There was a comparison on YouTube for the ifi and the mojo.

I've also heard them, they have a different sound.

I disliked the original Mojo, sounded a bit DSP and digital. I thought the ifi idsd nano black was more natural and organic so I sold the Mojo 1.

Mojo 2 is a different story - it also has the Chord sound which can sound a little processed, but it's much better controlled now. It's a bold, wide and accurate sound signature and it has excellent amplification which has tight control over harder to drive headphones (almost sounding like a class a amp), and coupled with the eq it can just sound quite a bit more mature accurate and impressive than the ifi.

The ifi gryphon still has op amp based amplification which is a bit uninspiring to me, and it hisses with high sensitivity iems requiring the use of iematch, which in turn kills the dynamics of the sound. Also it doesn't have the extensive eq, only a sub bass boost.

I see the gryphon as a Swiss army knife tool, it can do a lot including act as a line in amplification and Bluetooth but it doesn't reach for the stars.. it's based on ifi hasn't really innovated significantly all these years I think.

Don't get me wrong I like ifi, but I feel the gryphon is overpriced for what you get sound quality wise. Im also not a Chord groupie, many times I disliked the Chord sound which is almost as if a compressor has been applied pushing details upfront too much. But the Mojo 2 offers many improvement on top and with its eq it's really rather unique... If it didn't have the eq I would think twice..
 
Mar 9, 2022 at 6:39 AM Post #3,072 of 12,410
Mojo 2 is a different story - it also has the Chord sound which can sound a little processed, but it's much better controlled now. It's a bold, wide and accurate sound signature and it has excellent amplification which has tight control over harder to drive headphones (almost sounding like a class a amp), and coupled with the eq it can just sound quite a bit more mature accurate and impressive than the ifi.
Mojo2 does feature a class A Amp for amplification.
 
Mar 9, 2022 at 7:31 AM Post #3,073 of 12,410
There was a comparison on YouTube for the ifi and the mojo.

I've also heard them, they have a different sound.

I disliked the original Mojo, sounded a bit DSP and digital. I thought the ifi idsd nano black was more natural and organic so I sold the Mojo 1.

Mojo 2 is a different story - it also has the Chord sound which can sound a little processed, but it's much better controlled now. It's a bold, wide and accurate sound signature and it has excellent amplification which has tight control over harder to drive headphones (almost sounding like a class a amp), and coupled with the eq it can just sound quite a bit more mature accurate and impressive than the ifi.

The ifi gryphon still has op amp based amplification which is a bit uninspiring to me, and it hisses with high sensitivity iems requiring the use of iematch, which in turn kills the dynamics of the sound. Also it doesn't have the extensive eq, only a sub bass boost.

I see the gryphon as a Swiss army knife tool, it can do a lot including act as a line in amplification and Bluetooth but it doesn't reach for the stars.. it's based on ifi hasn't really innovated significantly all these years I think.

Don't get me wrong I like ifi, but I feel the gryphon is overpriced for what you get sound quality wise. Im also not a Chord groupie, many times I disliked the Chord sound which is almost as if a compressor has been applied pushing details upfront too much. But the Mojo 2 offers many improvement on top and with its eq it's really rather unique... If it didn't have the eq I would think twice..
What is processed sound like ?
 

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