Yes, conductivity. That works out because I can buy pre-cut Cooper for this purpose. For Titanium, I need to bring it to a machine shop or mickey mouse cut myself.
6 or 7 of these bad boys linked together can power a mScaler with great results > 4 hours. Heard instrustments become more real-life on the grapevine for those whom supercapped the mScaler. Only need two for 5V.
I have a SuperCapacitor Management System (PCB) that handles all that. Similar to a Battery Management System. I power with a 'medical-grade' SMPS:
The PCB isolates from Mains when it's turned ON. Charges when turned OFF.
Runs in Class A Power for say 4 hours when 'ON' (Isolated from Mains). When used beyond that it runs Class B Power, so it gets a trickle charge. Still good, but not isolated from Mains. Industrial quality so can run 24/7 if needed. For example, I plan to run it 24/7 so it's always at a full charge. When I turn on the Hugo2 it will go into Class A mode so I'm isolated from Mains. When I turn off the Hugo2, it will charge on it's own. I doubt I would go in Class B mode.
I just have to solid core the thing. The PCB takes care of the rest. No need to constantly unplug/plug anything. The logic handles isolation so unplugging unnecessary...
Batteries have a 3000 cycle lifespan. SuperCaps about 1million cycles. So good investment that will last over a decade. User-Friendly.
Reminder that Chord abandoned Chord Wireless users when they needed Chord the most. Sort of like the Texas Politician Ted Cruz whom flies to Cancun when Texans needed him during Winter Power/Gas outages.
If you notice, they don't even care enough to open an official Mojo2, maybe Anni thread. How can you support a product when even the Manufacturer doesn't even support their product. It's just random posters creating unofficial Chord threads. They just don't care. Too many users with pitchforks.
Rob Watts had to present his PowerPoint slides on a random post on page 500 or so. Not even a (reserved) posting for someone that transformed their Company. I'm use to going on a Chord thread and seeing PowerPoint slides on the first page. I think they gave Rob Watts a 'like', but that was it. No real support, even for Rob Watts.
Never mind the QC, you guys take it up the #@s like that and still promote Chord Wireless products...
Did they ever get the promised two SD card slots working in tandem? I know lots of broken promises, but this one interest me the most.
Plus a Macbook has horsepower, can playback in RAM and has it's on native mode. SQ should be better. He's probably use Music Playback for years on his Macbook. 2Go would only bring aggravation. If he was mowing the lawn, that's a different use case.
For the price of a 2Go to a company that doesn't care, you can get another Macbook.
2cents
Over/Under when Chord will be officially back. 2025?
Obviously, something the company has done has upset you! I haven't come to this with any real knowledge or history of the company's past performance. I heard a few of their products over the years, but never ended up buying any until now. Hugo 2 brings a level of musical insight I didn't expect at this price point, or from digital source material. Although I bought 2go for it's convenience / portability, I also immediately noticed that it strengthened the attributes that I enjoyed about Hugo 2. I know I could produce data from various other sources and go down the rabbit hole of endless source and cable tweakery, but I really don't have the time, or want the multi box inconvenience. The time I do have, I want to spend loving my music.
I have a reasonable pair of ears and know my use case. The Hugo 2 / 2go combination fits my needs and sounds excellent. To be honest, I can't imagine anything Chord could do that would make me buy into apple stuff
Obviously, something the company has done has upset you! I haven't come to this with any real knowledge or history of the company's past performance. I heard a few of their products over the years, but never ended up buying any until now. Hugo 2 brings a level of musical insight I didn't expect at this price point, or from digital source material. Although I bought 2go for it's convenience / portability, I also immediately noticed that it strengthened the attributes that I enjoyed about Hugo 2. I know I could produce data from various other sources and go down the rabbit hole of endless source and cable tweakery, but I really don't have the time, or want the multi box inconvenience. The time I do have, I want to spend loving my music.
I have a reasonable pair of ears and know my use case. The Hugo 2 / 2go combination fits my needs and sounds excellent. To be honest, I can't imagine anything Chord could do that would make me buy into apple stuff
The Poly and 2Go threads were chaos. Chord gave everyone the middle finger when the going got tough. They haven't been back.
I'm eccentric, so I can build my own better device but I just feel for those whom spent hard-earned money during that time period.
It's pretty much erased history for new users, but it just leaves a bad taste in the mouth for those whom were in the mix.
Look how wonderful Rob Watts is in this community. Where's Chord? New users whom haven't had Chord as an outlet on this site would not notice.
At least open an Official Thread for your products. Give Rob Watts some support? Rob Watts doesn't need to be here, but he cares. Help out a brother a bit. He's getting up there in age. He shouldn't have to carry the Chord load all by himself on this site.
I try to help Rob Watts out when LPS gets brought up to bring up Passive Power solutions, but I burn out easily as I have been through Hugo2 and Mojo1 launch already. I'm only here a few times a year. I have no energy to go through a Mojo2 / Hugo3 arc. I'll probably burn out in two weeks, then back EOY.
I cannot count how many times posters ask Rob Watts about troubleshooting the Poly/2Go. He's like, hell no, that's not my project.
That's why when I see 2Go on a official Rob Watts thread (Hugo2), I say hell no, 2Go has it's own thread. A non-Rob Watts product thread.
The Poly and 2Go threads were chaos. Chord gave everyone the middle finger when the going got tough. They haven't been back.
I'm eccentric, so I can build my own better device but I just feel for those whom spent hard-earned money during that time period.
It's pretty much erased history for new users, but it just leaves a bad taste in the mouth for those whom were in the mix.
Look how wonderful Rob Watts is in this community. Where's Chord? New users whom haven't had Chord as an outlet on this site would not notice.
At least open an Official Thread for your products. Give Rob Watts some support? Rob Watts doesn't need to be here, but he cares. Help out a brother a bit. He's getting up there in age. He shouldn't have to carry the Chord load all by himself on this site.
I try to help Rob Watts out when LPS gets brought up to bring up Passive Power solutions, but I burn out easily as I have been through Hugo2 and Mojo1 launch already. I'm only here a few times a year. I have no energy to go through a Mojo2 / Hugo3 arc. I'll probably burn out in two weeks, then back EOY.
I cannot count how many times posters ask Rob Watts about troubleshooting the Poly/2Go. He's like, hell no, that's not my project.
That's why when I see 2Go on a official Rob Watts thread (Hugo2), I say hell no, 2Go has it's own thread. A non-Rob Watts product thread.
Fair enough. Personally, I feel that as 2go gave me sonic improvements and convenience, it earned a mention here. I didn't realize this was an official Rob Watts thread
I've been reading the Watts Up thread and lots of what I'm reading there makes excellent sense. Rob has a way of getting complex ideas across in comprehensible (well mostly) terms. It's refreshing to have your thoughts on some aspects of listening crystallized by someone else. The effort and insight given by Rob across these threads is greatly appreciated.
Fair enough. Personally, I feel that as 2go gave me sonic improvements and convenience, it earned a mention here. I didn't realize this was an official Rob Watts thread
I've been reading the Watts Up thread and lots of what I'm reading there makes excellent sense. Rob has a way of getting complex ideas across in comprehensible (well mostly) terms. It's refreshing to have your thoughts on some aspects of listening crystallized by someone else. The effort and insight given by Rob across these threads is greatly appreciated.
That's fine. TBF, the person whom brought up the 2Go solution I believe was one of the first to say I'm tossing this in the bin back in the day. So if he is recommending it now, it must of changed 180 degrees.
Anyways, I think I kicked Mercy's butt by creating the best SPDIF streamer w/ toslink optical (glass optical cable) in the world. And I haven't even Supercapped the State of the Art Oscillators yet. They are running on batteries @17V. By powering with State of the Art Oscillators that measure better than the $20,000 MSB clock, I'm just in audio heaven. It's open and airy, natural with so much depth. It's relaxed, non-fatiguing and super smooth. Also, so many details get processed. No lost information. Chord DACs cannot recover lost information. The SOTA clocks retrieves everything. So much separation between instruments. I never heard my Hugo2 perform this way. It's pure luxury. I can now tell instruments are at a different volume which is a Chord Pillar trait. Other DACs, the instruments all play at the same volume. Now, it's just much more easier to distinguish. Such a pleasure. That's why I currently have energy to post, just in a good place in this hobby.
It's an eyesore though as it runs on two boxes the size of the Hugo2 powered by 10 large high performing batteries that are found in Teslas. State of the Art needs processing power. It's not these tiny clocks you find in typical HiFi gear. These things are a good size.
The SuperCapacitors should be the best power supply in the world when it's complete. This is just SQ to die for. My best investment in time and money outside of Chord in this hobby. I was close to giving up on State of the Art Oscillators due to complexity, but this is a massive payoff. I'll try to swing it by ray-dude's pad for peer review after the pandemic to compare with his Taiko Extreme. Of course, I'm running real-time low latency OS. It's 2022 after all.
ray-dude's preference is optical <=192, usb >192. I'm redbook-only so optical is so special.
For USB optical I forgot you get true galvanic isolation when you power by a battery pack 5V. Also, the connector is large so you need to lay your Hugo2 flat to not put stress on the USB port. I'll try to find photos.
I would never use a Chord product that's not a Rob Watt's project (2Go, Poly, Anni, etc.). Those are just sub-par products trying to piggy back on Rob Watt's DAC design success. They are on par with Chi-Fi solutions. Something I would never use either. But I don't take the easy path to solutions. It's a Chord DAC, I want to do it justice. I can see how it's easy to put them in the same Rob Watt's project orbit, but they are not. Even if I was gifted one, I was just toss in the bin. Imagine the stringent QC of Rob Watt's testing and compare that to non Rob Watt's projects. Rob Watt's gets it done time and time again correct the first time. Even though these non Rob Watt's projects have the Chord badge, there's no similarities. Maybe after 1000 iterations, they still won't get it right.
I think you have never heard a chord power amp. Those who are done can testify to the gigantic leap accomplished by Chord in his new Ultima Serie. And yet the old series already had a remarkable signature.
I describe the progress of the order of a Hugo2 to a Dave.
I will never have the usefulness of an anni but if the opportunity arises I will not hesitate to savor this product that shares the same DNA and I suggest each audiophile to discover this technology before rushing to another type of amp.
That's fine. TBF, the person whom brought up the 2Go solution I believe was one of the first to say I'm tossing this in the bin back in the day. So if he is recommending it now, it must of changed 180 degrees.
I think most Poly/2go users wanted to bin their unit at some point.
Yes, Chord made significant improvements in their streamers as of late. It seems their extended beta testing (unbeknownst to the buyer) is paying off. Since Rob kept the mojo2 compatible with poly, there is still significant life left in the product.
You have very strong feelings on the matter. I’m happy you found your solution.
Poly is 5 years old now and Mojo2 just arrived on the scenes.
If Chord ever want to upgrade to Poly2 , they will have to make it backward compatible with Mojo2 - it means that Poly2 (2Poly ??) will still have to be fitted with micro-usb! getting my drift?
Are we going to be dealing with micro-usb for another 5-10 years now?
There were better ways of having Mojo2 up to date (full USB-C) and still compatible with Poly(1) for a while (simple adaptor), and fully compatible with an up to date Poly2 (if ever).
I doubt they did it to accommodate existing users, I believe they have a stock-pile of Polys they haven't sold yet, and they panicked.
The extra USB-C port (I bet it is wired in USB 2 configuration for audio use ), where it is, the fact that only one USB works at a time, tells me it was a last minute decision.
Blame covid if you must.
Re; Coax and toslink input and possible clock issues
This is where @Rob Watts I hope would chip in and explain.
USB input is Asynchronous, coax and toslink are not!
Asynchronous means that the DAC is master, it asks data to be sent and the (DAP) obliges, at a pace the DAC sets. The DAC re-clocks the blocks of data to decode.
Technically coax and toslink just send data at their own rate (clock speed) and the DAC is then has to keep up and decode, so technically USB system is superior!
Also, the FPGA is doing a ton of calculations at the same time (many thousands of TAPs). This tells me that Chord DACs should be operating at high latency (delay) which shouldn't go hand in hand with synchronous inputs (coax and toslink/optical).
Yet Chord DACs like toslink better ( for various reasons) and have no issues.
Unless, the DACs are buffering the data in large quantities! (to my limited knowledge), is this in fact what is going on behind the scenes?
Poly is 5 years old now and Mojo2 just arrived on the scenes.
If Chord ever want to upgrade to Poly2 , they will have to make it backward compatible with Mojo2 - it means that Poly2 (2Poly ??) will still have to be fitted with micro-usb! getting my drift?
Are we going to be dealing with micro-usb for another 5-10 years now?
There were better ways of having Mojo2 up to date (full USB-C) and still compatible with Poly(1) for a while (simple adaptor), and fully compatible with an up to date Poly2 (if ever).
I doubt they did it to accommodate existing users, I believe they have a stock-pile of Polys they haven't sold yet, and they panicked.
The extra USB-C port (I bet it is wired in USB 2 configuration for audio use ), where it is, the fact that only one USB works at a time, tells me it was a last minute decision.
Blame covid if you must.
It's a decision that has pros and cons I guess. Micro USB is not an issue for the Mojo / poly combination, as once clipper together, the connection won't be subject to insertion wear and tear, but it is really odd to still be seeing it in this decade.
If a Hugo 3 comes along sometime, I wouldn't want to be buying a 3go as well.
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