CHORD ELECTRONICS DAVE

[Uncle Monty]

Can you think of any negatives when using the M-Scaler with the Dave?

If you look a few pages back - I was a bit confused about what settings to use on the DAVE and on Roon - because the MScaler converts DSD to PCM, you should probably set the DAVE to PCM if you have MScaler attached (though some say it doesn't matter) and set Roon to feed the MScaler in original form (so keep DSD as DSD and PCM as PCM - I think DoP is the setting that allows this) - so the MScaler converts DSD to PCM rather than Roon as the MScaler should be better at doing this.

It's an education this digital music malarky.

 

[ecwl]

If you look a few pages back - I was a bit confused about what settings to use on the DAVE and on Roon - because the MScaler converts DSD to PCM, you should probably set the DAVE to PCM if you have MScaler attached (though some say it doesn't matter) and set Roon to feed the MScaler in original form (so keep DSD as DSD and PCM as PCM - I think DoP is the setting that allows this) - so the MScaler converts DSD to PCM rather than Roon as the MScaler should be better at doing this.

All true except the reason why we say DSD+ or PCM+ settings on DAVE doesn’t matter is because...
When you’re feeding DAVE with M-Scaler, presumably DAVE will always received upsampled 705.6kHz or 768kHz signal. The PCM+ vs DSD+ setting on DAVE only determines whether DAVE uses 164000 taps or 82000 taps to upsample PCM content to 705.6kHz or 768kHz (and how it processes DSD signals). Since you’re already feeding 705.6kHz or 768kHz to DAVE, it doesn’t matter whether you set DAVE to DSD+ or PCM+, it’ll sound the same.

 

[Mircea C.]

I saw mention that some Daves have different glass on the front and that is one way to differentiate the age of the unit. My unit has the inputs labeled; some Daves do not. Is mine a newer unit or what?

I also just got my Dave pre-owned. Same labeled inputs, 7 button remote (in the last manual on chord website it shows a remote similar to TT2's one) and the original purchase date was 2018 if that helps in any way.

 

[CRITICALSHOT]

I also just got my Dave pre-owned. Same labeled inputs, 7 button remote (in the last manual on chord website it shows a remote similar to TT2's one) and the original purchase date was 2018 if that helps in any way.

I guess people were complaining. I had the layout memorized while I was waiting and had a checklist. I knew how to put it in DAC Mode and to put some headphones in to make sure cross feed was off.

Dave in "my" two channel system crushes the TT2/MS in every aspect that is important to me. Selling the TT2/MS turned out to be the perfect move. I was so happy that I am not even rushed to get the Blu 2; solo Dave is that much of an improvement for my system.

 

[Triode User]

I guess people were complaining. I had the layout memorized while I was waiting and had a checklist. I knew how to put it in DAC Mode and to put some headphones in to make sure cross feed was off.

Dave in "my" two channel system crushes the TT2/MS in every aspect that is important to me. Selling the TT2/MS turned out to be the perfect move. I was so happy that I am not even rushed to get the Blu 2; solo Dave is that much of an improvement for my system.

As I never tire of saying, I really do think solo Dave is much better than TT2/HMS. Glad you are happy. When you are ready you can get HMS again.

 

[CRITICALSHOT]

As I never tire of saying, I really do think solo Dave is much better than TT2/HMS. Glad you are happy. When you are ready you can get HMS again.

Dave:
- more dynamic
- more transparent
- more detailed
- more clarity
- bass is better defined
- bass has more texture
- midrange is better
- more cohesive overall sound
- soundstage is somewhat better

I could go on but you get the idea.

 

[Amberlamps]

TT 2 is more musical, if folk want clinical music without soul, get a dave instead, and TT2 is a better all rounder.

This isn't just me thats saying it, it's also 50 Cent's brother.

Meet 25p

 

[CRITICALSHOT]

TT 2 is more musical, if folk want clinical music without soul, get a dave instead, and TT2 is a better all rounder.

This isn't just me thats saying it, it's also 50 Cent's brother.

The Dave is more musical than the TT2/MS and does everything better! I thought the Dave was going to be hyper detailed, bright, disconnected and thin. Nope! The TT2/MS is not a better all rounder; there is only one area where it can compete. More power, but the sound quality is not even close. If you happen to not need the power then that one area doesn’t even matter.

"Hold my jockstrap."

- Digital to Analogue Veritas in Extremis

 

[Mircea C.]

Unfortunately I sold my TT2 before I jumped for Dave so I didn't had the chance to AB. What surprised me was that Dave is not thin at all (I guess I was afraid a little bit). Even though I sold my TT2 I kept the HMS . With Nick's "Stone" cables in place I am now looking to improve my interconnects to get even more detail out of the system. Although everybody says RCA out of Dave are a better option, in my system XLR is (I guess the amp is working better in balanced mode), so I ordered 5 XLR interconnects to do a comparison at home and I will keep the winner. Will be busy next few days

 

[koven]

Please avoid using 'musical' to describe sound, it's probably the emptiest and most meaningless among all audio jargon, no?

 

[CRITICALSHOT]

Unfortunately I sold my TT2 before I jumped for Dave so I didn't had the chance to AB. What surprised me was that Dave is not thin at all (I guess I was afraid a little bit). Even though I sold my TT2 I kept the HMS . With Nick's "Stone" cables in place I am now looking to improve my interconnects to get even more detail out of the system. Although everybody says RCA out of Dave are a better option, in my system XLR is (I guess the amp is working better in balanced mode), so I ordered 5 XLR interconnects to do a comparison at home and I will keep the winner. Will be busy next few days

I want the Blu 2, that's why I sold the MS. It just happened that the MS sold before I got the Dave, so I couldn't get the chance to try it with the Dave. I have read the entire Dave thread, TT2 thread and most of the MS thread. I wanted to know everyones opinion so I could make a some what informed decision before making a blind purchase. It seems like the people that don't have the Dave talk the loudest. I just wanted to give my opinion and see if it can help point someone in the right direction.

 

[CRITICALSHOT]

Please avoid using 'musical' to describe sound, it's probably the emptiest and most meaningless among all audio jargon, no?

The funny thing is that 'musical' is a good thing to some and a bad thing to others.

 

[koven]

I agree, it is a good thing to some and a bad thing to others. In the

The funny thing is that 'musical' is a good thing to some and a bad thing to others.

It's quite an amusing descriptor, I chuckle every time. I suppose some people think musical is synonymous to warm, rich, and dynamic. But to me the only practical use of musical would be saying yeah, that audiobook wasn't very musical. Otherwise music is inherently pretty... musical.

 

[F208Frank]

There is this retail store in NY where the staff mention certain items being more musical than others, Koven. I'm sure they would drive you nuts!

 

[koven]

There is this retail store in NY where the staff mention certain items being more musical than others, Koven. I'm sure they would drive you nuts!

Audio46? I'd like to walk in and say I'm looking for something not too musical. To which they may respond sir, there's a Barnes and Noble a few blocks down.