CHORD ELECTRONICS DAVE

[Emerald Core]

What you guys said probably is going to happen. I am already imagining a 500k M Scaler on the way for half the price of blu2. And then followed by a TT 2 then a 2nd M Scaler of 800k.

Just guessing

 

[AndrewOld]

1m taps is the magic number, Rob has spoken. 1m taps it has to be.

 

[doraymon]

Yes my experiments with ferrites are only on Blu 2 to Dave. I have not had any success with ferrites on the USB

Damn' I spotted this 2 seconds before clicking "buy" on a $120+ bunch of Wurth ferrite clamps.
So basically there is no experience from Rob that even lower frequencies targeted ferrite cores on a USB cable to Dave would actually bring any benefit.
In a way this is good news, it means my cable (like any other cable for that matter) is going to be perfect for DAVE.
I am still tempted to try and hear by myself but it's a $120+ exercise...

 

[marcmccalmont]

Damn' I spotted this 2 seconds before clicking "buy" on a $120+ bunch of Wurth ferrite clamps.
So basically there is no experience from Rob that even lower frequencies targeted ferrite cores on a USB cable to Dave would actually bring any benefit.
In a way this is good news, it means my cable (like any other cable for that matter) is going to be perfect for DAVE.
I am still tempted to try and hear by myself but it's a $120+ exercise...

 

[marcmccalmont]

I just replaced the stock usb cable between an Aurender N100h and Hugo2 with a $100 wireworld starlight 7 (the red one) very happy with the improvements and reasonably priced

 

[jayz]

1m taps is the magic number, Rob has spoken. 1m taps it has to be.

In theory at least, a 10M scaler is possible and I think that is where Chord might head with their top end range although I am aware there have been doubts expressed as to the benefit of going beyond 1M. In any case I think Chord will also be looking to advance state of the art as it is today - those aspects holding back further improvement. For example, preventing/reducing external interference getting to digital circuitry. Who knows, Dave2 might even come with a Scaler built in.

Regarding a lower cost scaler - we know it's coming but hard guess when. I'd say we might have to wait till Xilinx come up with a 20nm Artix family device which should happen soon. The higher end 20nm Xilinx chips available today seem to show roughly half power consumption which would equate to approx 5w for an MScaler which brings it roughly in the ballpark of Quest power requirements. Of course these are all rough estimates.

Then we have those who want an MScaler for the H2 and Quest audience as things stand today but it is hard to see that happen TBH as some of you have already pointed out.

 

[simorag]

Hello guys, which power cable are you using with the DAVE?

I am currently using a fair budget cable (http://www.ricable.com/hi-end-power.html), combined with this power distributor http://www.systemsandmagic.com/index_file/eight.htm, and I am wondering about the potential sound quality improvements from stepping up to a higher end power cable in the 400-600Euro price range (I am open to 2nd hand ones, too).

I have no plans for a power regenerator at the moment, as the very good ones are much above my budget right now, and my current priority is keep saving for a Blu2 or a standalone M-Scaler if and when it will come out. Also, my mains line seems not too bad, at least by judging from sound quality variations from busy daily hours to deep night performance.​

Still, I am interested in other's experiences about feeding the DAVE with a high-end power cord.

I would prefer a slightly warm-ish signature (if that applies to power cables), as I occasionally suffer from vocals sibilance with my Abyss Phi headphones driven straight out of the DAVE.

Finally, would you recommend a power cable designed specifically for digital sources for the DAVE used as DAC + amp?

 

[Emerald Core]

Ok guys so I am getting close to decide to buy Dave over HugoTT/2 since people tried and I wouldn't want to regret making a Midway decison. Also, Rob Watts mentioned that there is no Dave2 coming for the next two years.

The wait time is 6 weeks and costs $8200 with vat. What do you guys think?

 

[ZappaMan]

Ok guys so I am getting close to decide to buy Dave over HugoTT/2 since people tried and I wouldn't want to regret making a Midway decison. Also, Rob Watts mentioned that there is no Dave2 coming for the next two years.

The wait time is 6 weeks and costs $8200 with vat. What do you guys think?

Let’s say you smoked (I don’t anymore), you’d save that amount on cigarettes in 3 years, so I’d say, do it, fill thy ears rather then thy lungs!

 

[hattrick15]

I just replaced the stock usb cable between an Aurender N100h and Hugo2 with a $100 wireworld starlight 7 (the red one) very happy with the improvements and reasonably priced

Can you describe the improvements you are hearing?

 

[marcmccalmont]

Can you describe the improvements you are hearing?

More transparent, more detail, leading edges better defined, sounds like a tweeter upgrade! A bit more 3 dimensional and life like, voices have improved clarity

 

[marcmccalmont]

Ok guys so I am getting close to decide to buy Dave over HugoTT/2 since people tried and I wouldn't want to regret making a Midway decison. Also, Rob Watts mentioned that there is no Dave2 coming for the next two years.

The wait time is 6 weeks and costs $8200 with vat. What do you guys think?

1. Blu2 Dave
2. Blu2 Hugo2
3. Dave
4. Hugo2

 

[marcmccalmont]

Hello guys, which power cable are you using with the DAVE?

I am currently using a fair budget cable (http://www.ricable.com/hi-end-power.html), combined with this power distributor http://www.systemsandmagic.com/index_file/eight.htm, and I am wondering about the potential sound quality improvements from stepping up to a higher end power cable in the 400-600Euro price range (I am open to 2nd hand ones, too).

I have no plans for a power regenerator at the moment, as the very good ones are much above my budget right now, and my current priority is keep saving for a Blu2 or a standalone M-Scaler if and when it will come out. Also, my mains line seems not too bad, at least by judging from sound quality variations from busy daily hours to deep night performance.​

Still, I am interested in other's experiences about feeding the DAVE with a high-end power cord.

I would prefer a slightly warm-ish signature (if that applies to power cables), as I occasionally suffer from vocals sibilance with my Abyss Phi headphones drive straight out of the DAVE.

Finally, would you recommend a power cable designed specifically for digital sources for the DAVE used as DAC + amp?

Try Pangea AC 14se II ‘s better than expensive power cords reasonably priced. also look into a regenerator for all your equipment except your power amps PS audio p5 or a used powerplant premiere (about $1000 used)

 

[Emerald Core]

1. Blu2 Dave
2. Blu2 Hugo2
3. Dave
4. Hugo2

The difference between Dave and H2 is as good as the price difference too? Could you elaborate between 3 and 4?
I am not buying the blu2. But I will be willing to spare for an upcoming separate Mscaler if it ever comes to life.

thanks buddy

 

[marcmccalmont]

The difference between Dave and H2 is as good as the price difference too? Could you elaborate between 3 and 4?
I am not buying the blu2. But I will be willing to spare for an upcoming separate Mscaler if it ever comes to life.

thanks buddy

On a scale of 0-100
Live music 100
1. Blu2 Dave. 95
2. Blu2 Hugo2. 93
3. Dave. 87
4. Hugo2 86

Hugo2 is by far the best value then the Blu2/Hugo2 but if you are eventually going to buy an Mscaler and pair it with Dave and don’t need a Hugo2 in a secondary system buy a Dave