CHORD ELECTRONICS DAVE

[GuiltyRocker]

Should be very soon
Hardly any editing to do on it. Main holdback atm is I can't actually get into my office until tomorrow as my car needs a new tyre so can't sort it today.

Id imagine possibly sometime next week it'll be up

Thank you Golden.

 

[GoldenSound]

What really separates the two objectively?
I don’t see the justification of why to buy a Dave over a mojo2 when they both have similar performance, one could even argue that the mojo2 is better.

The biggest thing between the DAVE and mojo 2 is the noise shaper itself and number of elements in the pulse array.

Mojo 2 is a 4 element array whereas DAVE is 20 elements and more processing power. Meaning other aspects like better reconstruction filter etc.

Exactly how much difference is there for the noise shaper I'm not sure.

 

[GuiltyRocker]

The biggest thing between the DAVE and mojo 2 is the noise shaper itself and number of elements in the pulse array.

Mojo 2 is a 4 element array whereas DAVE is 20 elements and more processing power. Meaning other aspects like better reconstruction filter etc.

Exactly how much difference is there for the noise shaper I'm not sure.

The DAVe interpolation filter blows Mojo away

 

[VM72]

What really separates the two objectively?
I don’t see the justification of why to buy a Dave over a mojo2 when they both have similar performance, one could even argue that the mojo2 is better.

You are happy mann, when your “objectivism” tells you: “Mojo2 is better because it measures simmilar to Dave and is much more cheaper.

When I bought Holo May I said to my self (or to my “objectivism”?): “it’s my end game”. Until this moment when I was comparing May to Dave on my audio

 

[GuiltyRocker]

You are happy mann, when your “objectivism” tell you: “Mojo2 is better because measure simmilar to Dave and is much more cheaper.

When I bought Holo May I told to my self (or to my “objectivism”?): “it’s my end game”. Till this time when I compered May to Dave on my audio

I'm curious, how did the Holo May compare to DAVE? It seems that the Holo is the flavor of the month in some circles. Would love to hear your impressions.

 

[griff500]

You are happy mann, when your “objectivism” tell you: “Mojo is better because measure is simmilar and is much more cheaper.

When I bought Holo May I told to my self (or to my “objectivism”?): “it’s my end game”. Till this time when I compered May to Dave on my audio

Not a Mojo, but I started with a TT2, which I had thought was end-game enough for me combined with the M-Scaler, and out of curiosity got a Dave to compare. I had them both at the same time in the same system and it was immediately obvious that the Dave was far better to my ears. Someone came to my place to hear my TT2 - their DAC at that time was the Cutest, which I thought sounded good. He was immediately impressed by the Dave and decided at that moment to buy one. The difference was that obvious. It's never a good idea to hear the Dave if you don't want to spend the money.

 

[569424]

Exactly how much difference is there for the noise shaper I'm not sure.

Would be nice to get this finally known.
and maybe more importantly an objective listening test result between the two.

 

[Ragnar-BY]

how did the Holo May compare to DAVE?

It’s a very controversial topic. Which was discussed here many times

A lot of people heard May and DAVE and there is no doubt that both DACs are great. But it’s impossible to say which is better. Some prefer May, some prefer DAVE. If I recall correctly there are even head-fiers who kept both.

 

[569424]

The DAVe interpolation filter blows Mojo away

But mojos power source blows Dave’s away. They could trade blows.

 

[chesebert]

The biggest thing between the DAVE and mojo 2 is the noise shaper itself and number of elements in the pulse array.

Mojo 2 is a 4 element array whereas DAVE is 20 elements and more processing power. Meaning other aspects like better reconstruction filter etc.

Exactly how much difference is there for the noise shaper I'm not sure.

So Dave has less than 50% of the elements of mid tier dCS ring dac (I think Vivaldi Apex has 96 elements - could be dual mono rather than actually using 96 elements, which would be kind of nuts)? Not impressed in 2023.

 

[VM72]

Holo May compare to Dave sounds darker, slower, less resolving and Dave has better and more natural highs. (my audio gears: Aurender N100H, Chord Dave (before Holo May), Denafrips Athena, and active loudspeakers Acon Divus http://analoghifi.sk/acon-divus-mk-ii/

 

[griff500]

So Dave has less than 50% of the elements of mid tier dCS ring dac (I think Vivaldi Apex has 96 elements - could be dual mono rather than actually using 96 elements, which would be kind of nuts)? Not impressed in 2023.

How much do they cost?

 

[chesebert]

How much do they cost?

You know dCS dac pricing is public knowledge, right? Just google it. Lina is $13k MSRP, probably $10k street.

 

[griff500]

You know dCS dac pricing is public knowledge, right? Just google it.

Well I thought you might know, in which case you could have just said.

It looks like a Vivaldi is more than $46,000. I'd hope there is something you can say is technically better than the $14,000 Dave.

 

[chesebert]

Well I thought you might know, in which case you could have just said.

It looks like a Vivaldi is more than $46,000. I'd hope there is something you can say is technically better than the $14,000 Dave.

I think Lina has a 48 element array (not dual mono, but neither is Dave), and that's $13k MSRP. At the end of the day, these are all just fancy ways of doing multi bit delta sigma stuff in FPGA, latches and resistor arrays.