CD storage albums?

[obobskivich]

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Originally Posted by Goit /img/forum/go_quote.gif Hmm. so in your experience even cheap sleeves won't scratch CDs? Then I will not get case logic then, too overpriced.

correct

unless something gets in the sleeve, or its pure plastic (if it doesn't have some sort of lens cloth type material in it, thats a problem), its generally fine

the only thing Case Logic cases generally have over the cheap stuff, is the case itself is usually FAR more durable, for example I've got a pair of Case Logic 200 disc units from the late 90's (also for software....), leather outer and solid inners, you can throw them about and not damage the casing, my cheap solution is very fragile because its ~$3 1" binders holding it all together

basically as long as you don't beat your stuff up, Case Logic has no advantage

 

[brotherlen]

I got rid of all my jewel cases this summer, I just kept the inside sleeve and the CD, I purchased some "eco tronics" CD holders, they hold 208 a piece, so a couple of those plus some lower capacity ones saved me a ton of room, ton! I have to rerip everything anyway. I'm also considering a media server for backup reasons and total access if I don't have the laptop on me. Maybe a really good back up hard drive. I haven't found one yet.

 

[Goit]

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Originally Posted by obobskivich /img/forum/go_quote.gif correct unless something gets in the sleeve, or its pure plastic (if it doesn't have some sort of lens cloth type material in it, thats a problem), its generally fine the only thing Case Logic cases generally have over the cheap stuff, is the case itself is usually FAR more durable, for example I've got a pair of Case Logic 200 disc units from the late 90's (also for software....), leather outer and solid inners, you can throw them about and not damage the casing, my cheap solution is very fragile because its ~$3 1" binders holding it all together basically as long as you don't beat your stuff up, Case Logic has no advantage

Ah I see. Because I was told that case logic is more expensive because they don't scratch CDs so they are a must if you want the CDs to be in good condition.

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I got rid of all my jewel cases this summer, I just kept the inside sleeve and the CD, I purchased some "eco tronics" CD holders, they hold 208 a piece, so a couple of those plus some lower capacity ones saved me a ton of room, ton! I have to rerip everything anyway. I'm also considering a media server for backup reasons and total access if I don't have the laptop on me. Maybe a really good back up hard drive. I haven't found one yet.

It just seems like a terrible waste to throw out hundreds of jewel cases, which you paid for when buying the CDs.

 

[Goit]

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Originally Posted by obobskivich /img/forum/go_quote.gif correct unless something gets in the sleeve, or its pure plastic (if it doesn't have some sort of lens cloth type material in it, thats a problem), its generally fine the only thing Case Logic cases generally have over the cheap stuff, is the case itself is usually FAR more durable, for example I've got a pair of Case Logic 200 disc units from the late 90's (also for software....), leather outer and solid inners, you can throw them about and not damage the casing, my cheap solution is very fragile because its ~$3 1" binders holding it all together basically as long as you don't beat your stuff up, Case Logic has no advantage

Is it the outer casing that is durable or the sleeves that's durable?

 

[obobskivich]

both, to a degree, if you rip on stuff really hard, the case logic might survive a bit better, surely having the leather bound outer casing with a good zipper is more durable than the 1" binder (c'mon, its like $3 retail, its just some cheap molded plastic and a 3ring holder)

I wouldn't really say either can survive a lot of abuse, but I know the Case Logic solution is a bit tougher to break

if you need hardcore abuse resistance, look at the cases DJ's use to hold CDs

 

[Uncle Erik]

I'm looking for a solution, too. I have a Boltz 600 disc storage tower that's full and another 300-400 discs in storage. That doesn't include vinyl.

I think I'll pick up a used Mac G5 tower for $400 or so and toss a couple of 1TB drives in it. That and a DAC would make a decent media server and I could then store all the Red Book discs. I like the Boltz rack and like having a selection of discs I can see, so I'd keep that just for the SACDs. I don't have 600 of them (yet), but I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.

Still thinking about what to do with the vinyl. Or the extra equipment.

 

[Goit]

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Originally Posted by obobskivich /img/forum/go_quote.gif both, to a degree, if you rip on stuff really hard, the case logic might survive a bit better, surely having the leather bound outer casing with a good zipper is more durable than the 1" binder (c'mon, its like $3 retail, its just some cheap molded plastic and a 3ring holder) I wouldn't really say either can survive a lot of abuse, but I know the Case Logic solution is a bit tougher to break if you need hardcore abuse resistance, look at the cases DJ's use to hold CDs

Thanks.

Still not wanting to throw all of the jewel cases away, hundreds of them. seems like a terrible waste.

How did you bare to do it?

 

[obobskivich]

mine is all software, the casing is more or less worthless, but I've never really seen the point in keeping what my grandmother would call "yooks" around anyways (i.e: jewel cases without a purpose)

honestly, I feel guilty having my DVDs in their cases, and my CDs in their cases, but I've just been too busy to really deal with re-casing it all

erik, the reason I don't do a media server, is that I refuse to pay for my media twice, you buy the CD, and then pay to store a lower quality digital copy of it on hardware you've purchased, why? just my logic, because tbh I think your solution will be amazing, but at the same time, I've never been able to justify it, because of that logic

 

[Goit]

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Originally Posted by obobskivich /img/forum/go_quote.gif erik, the reason I don't do a media server, is that I refuse to pay for my media twice, you buy the CD, and then pay to store a lower quality digital copy of it on hardware you've purchased, why? just my logic, because tbh I think your solution will be amazing, but at the same time, I've never been able to justify it, because of that logic

You can rip in lossless format.

 

[obobskivich]

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Originally Posted by Goit /img/forum/go_quote.gif You can rip in lossless format.

still loses quality from the CD, and still doesn't sound as good as the disc in a transport

those subjective arguements aside, lossless format is a bigger filesize, meaning more expensive to store, so you're paying quite a bit just to have the data, vs just keeping the discs and playing them back in your transport

 

[analogbox]

I was looking at these the other day but at $13.95 they only give 25 of these which means I'll have to spend over $500 to accommodate my library. May still do as I may be moving international in a few years and I'd love to carry all my library in a suit case.

 

[vcoheda]

^ link?

 

[vcoheda]

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Originally Posted by obobskivich /img/forum/go_quote.gif still doesn't sound as good as the disc in a transport

my informal comparisons have told me the same. i have read other posts by people who have come to the same conclusion.

 

[obobskivich]

analogbox, don't buy those slip covers

I frequented a used records shop by my old place, and they had a donated rack of those, about 400 discs in total, it took 2 or 3 of us a few HOURS to wade through it, let alone how much time it had to take the original owner to put it all together (the worst part is, most of the music was trash, for example ,we found Joey Lawrence's debut album)

honestly, stick with some sort of more "lego esque" type system, big and tonka-esque is usually simple and easier to use in the long run

at least thats my take

 

[Goit]

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Originally Posted by obobskivich /img/forum/go_quote.gif still loses quality from the CD, and still doesn't sound as good as the disc in a transport those subjective arguements aside, lossless format is a bigger filesize, meaning more expensive to store, so you're paying quite a bit just to have the data, vs just keeping the discs and playing them back in your transport

Doesn't reading the disk in the drive introduce errors in the first place? Because when you rip you can re-read several times and match the CRC result, where as playing it from the disc can have errors that can not be repaired because either the buffer ran out and there is no time for error correction in real time.