[basketball]

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We do our own work in-house, but from the looks of it, all we'll need to bother with is software, intake, and exhaust. That and some new Michelin Pilot SS meats. The stock Bosch turbo and IC looks to be good for nearly 400bhp, if we have heat issues we can always get something bigger.

Are you going to get a Scion FRS or BRZ?

 

[Magick Man]

Are you going to get a Scion FRS or BRZ?

Probably not, I wasn't really that impressed with it.

 

[basketball]

Probably not, I wasn't really that impressed with it.

What for the STI BRZ.

 

[LazBro123]

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A bit of parking lot porn I came across this morning on my way into work.
 

 
 
R8 GT and a 612.
 
I'll take the Audi, thanks.

 
Wow, that R8 is beautiful. That 612 Scaglietti is gorgeous also, I don't know why Ferrari discontinued that model...

 

[basketball]

I saw a Maserati mc12 Corsa today. In orange and white. The nicest car I ever saw in person.

 

[Magick Man]

I've seen an Enzo but not an MC12.

 

[basketball]

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I've seen an Enzo but not an MC12.

For me vice versa. lol. I;ve nerver seen a enzo in person. The MC12 Corsa was right beside me at a red light. It sounded incredible. It was the one by edo competition and the exact one in this video: 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=VFVerY8l2Pg
 
The Enzo is owned by a guy from Calgary. 

 

[Magick Man]

I will get one (an Enzo), some day, but it's got to be black.

 

[basketball]

I will get one (an Enzo), some day, but it's got to be black.

Yeah the Enzo is awesome too shares many components with the MC12. For me the orange and white paint did it for me. I hear there is a new Enzo coming out?

 

[Magick Man]

The LaFerrari? Yeah, it's shipping at the end of this year.



Oh I wasn't dissing the MC12, it's an amazing machine, for sure.

 

[LazBro123]

Ok guys, let's create a huge debate..... Ferrari or Lamborghini? 
 
Even I do not know which brand to prefer myself!

 

[loxxrider]

Go drive them and you will see that there is no debate at all. I used to think I'd pick a lambo just because if you have a supercar, you might as well get something that is bonkers in every way (look, sound, etc.) and sounds sweet like the lambo V10s and V12s as opposed to many of the Ferarris' flat plane crank V8s. Then I drove a Gallardo and a 458 Italia. There is no debate, the 458 destroys the lambo in every way possible other than (to me) it sounds boring.

 

[LazBro123]

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Go drive them and you will see that there is no debate at all. I used to think I'd pick a lambo just because if you have a supercar, you might as well get something that is bonkers in every way (look, sound, etc.) and sounds sweet like the lambo V10s and V12s as opposed to many of the Ferarris' flat plane crank V8s. Then I drove a Gallardo and a 458 Italia. There is no debate, the 458 destroys the lambo in every way possible other than (to me) it sounds boring.

Lol I'm 16, so I don't think I'm driving anything above 200 hp lol! I'm getting my permit in the next couple of months . How does the 458 destroy the Gallardo? They are both beautiful cars.

 

[loxxrider]

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Lol I'm 16, so I don't think I'm driving anything above 200 hp lol! I'm getting my permit in the next couple of months . How does the 458 destroy the Gallardo? They are both beautiful cars.

Here is a post I made on another forum detailing my go at the Exotic Driving Experience. 
 
[size=13.333333969116211px]I did this in Orlando. At the time, they had the two [/size]lambos[size=13.333333969116211px], the R8, a 911, and the 458. It was my graduation gift from my parents. I was offered any car I wanted, and stupidly chose the better of the two Lambos. I just wanted that amazing aural experience to go along with the driving. The [/size]Ferrari[size=13.333333969116211px] just doesn't offer that to me unfortunately.[/size][size=13.333333969116211px][/size]
[size=13.333333969116211px][/size]
[size=13.333333969116211px]Well... that all changed when I arrived. They were doing some maintenance on the lambo I chose, so they asked me if I would like to drive the 458 instead. They insisted it would be better, but I tried not to seem too excited. They said they'd let me drive that and then let me drive the lesser Lambo for a few laps when I finished driving the Ferrari as further compensation for the loss of the better lambo. I was pretty dang happy about that idea, so off we went. [/size][size=13.333333969116211px][/size]
[size=13.333333969116211px][/size]
[size=13.333333969116211px]In summary, I am SO glad things happened the way they did. I came to learn several new things that day. For one, Lambos are utter **** on the track compared to [/size]Ferraris[size=13.333333969116211px]. The 458 is an absolute track weapon and too much car for me on the track without some serious practice first if I'm honest. The Audi R8 is the complete opposite of a piece of **** even though it is also made by Volkswagen Audi Group and is AWD.[/size][size=13.333333969116211px][/size]
[size=13.333333969116211px][/size]
[size=13.333333969116211px]As I mentioned, I got the 458 on the track and was thoroughly impressed with it in every way possible other than the noise it makes (I just don't like flat-plane V8 sounds compared to a V-anything) and the lack of headroom with a helmet. I'm 6' even, so if you are tall, watch out in this car. You definitely will not like driving it with a helmet on. I was lucky to get an awesome instructor who encouraged me to push the car and get the fastest [/size]lap times[size=13.333333969116211px] I possibly could. Yes, they do have a way to limit the car's power (it's like a potentiometer that can retard throttle position), but they will only use it if you are a crazy idiot and not listening to anything they tell you... like when to hit the brakes for example! They also block off the speedometer because it tends to distract people from the driving (there are a lot of tards who go out there attempting to drive these things). You get to see the rev-counter though, and that is all I really care about. Entry speed in corners should not be done by a number, but by feel in my opinion. [/size][size=13.333333969116211px][/size]
[size=13.333333969116211px][/size]
[size=13.333333969116211px]So as I said, the 458 was a little bit too much car for me. Part of the track is on the infield of the raceway there, and part is on the banked section of their NASCAR!!!! track. I could feel the traction control kick in through that corner at 90 mph if I tried to exit too hard, and upon entering too fast one time, the car started to walk up the [/size]banking[size=13.333333969116211px] toward the wall. That was a ton of fun for me, and the instructor guided me through the whole thing keeping me right on the edge of the car's capabilities as long as my driving could keep up. Unfortunately it couldn't on the infield... I consider myself pretty decent at navigating and finding the apex on nice connecting sweepers, but am just not used to dealing with tight, autocross-ish turns. My inexperience really showed there. I just couldn't believe how fast that car was around the track. I've been in much faster cars in a straight line, but nothing that could navigate around the track the way that 458 Italia could. I would NOT drive that car with the traction control off, at least not until gaining some serious seat-time in it. Also, this was the first time in my life I've ever said that a car should have a flappy-paddle gearbox. It is just too fast for a manual transmission... honestly.[/size][size=13.333333969116211px][/size]
[size=13.333333969116211px][/size]
[size=13.333333969116211px]After that, I got a few laps in with the Lambo LP5(60?) Superleggera. First impressions were that the interior was incredibly awesome and the levels of grip were awesome as well.. I could nail it anywhere in that 90 mph banked turn without a hint of traction loss. After 1.5 or two laps, I broke it. It started thunking around the big banked turn one time and then it went into limp-mode which we couldn't fix. Mind you, the other lambo was down for the count all day as well. That speaks for the reliability a little bit, not that the Ferrari is likely much better. There were a few other things I noticed immediately... the steering feel was not there in the car, nor was any kind of feel really. The dynamics of the handling just wasn't there either... there was definitely some understeer plow present. The worst killer was the gearbox. What a hunk of ****. Every single shift results in the car lurching forward, pausing, and then slamming back into gear which seriously unsettles the car when it is at speed around any kind of turn. Of course, with a 6-speed it would have been much better.[/size][size=13.333333969116211px][/size]
[size=13.333333969116211px][/size]
[size=13.333333969116211px]Since the Lambo broke, they offered me a lap or two in the V10 R8. I am so glad I got the [/size]opportunity[size=13.333333969116211px] to drive that too because it is such a different beast than the Lambo. It is much more neutral-handling, there is some feel involved in all of the control systems, the gearbox shifts significantly better (strange since I assume it is basically the same thing) and it retains the awesome grip of the AWD system and that awesome Audi/Lambo V10 engine. It isn't as fast as the Ferrari... in fact it really doesn't do anything as well as the Ferrari, but it sure does them well for a heck of a lot less money. I don't understand how people can have them sitting in their garage... I'd buy one and take it to the track as often as possible... and I really may consider that one day! [/size][size=13.333333969116211px][/size]
[size=13.333333969116211px][/size]
[size=13.333333969116211px]In the end, it was totally worth the price of admission. I got more than I bargained for which was nice, but I would have been just as excited about it if I hadn't. If you don't come back from doing this with a huge smile plastered to your face, you aren't a human being.[/size]
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
[size=13.333333969116211px]On another note, I just drove my M5 for the first time in two months and WHAT A CAR! Gotta love it [/size]

 

[LazBro123]

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Here is a post I made on another forum detailing my go at the Exotic Driving Experience. 
 
[size=13.333333969116211px]I did this in Orlando. At the time, they had the two [/size]lambos[size=13.333333969116211px], the R8, a 911, and the 458. It was my graduation gift from my parents. I was offered any car I wanted, and stupidly chose the better of the two Lambos. I just wanted that amazing aural experience to go along with the driving. The [/size]Ferrari[size=13.333333969116211px] just doesn't offer that to me unfortunately.[/size][size=13.333333969116211px][/size]
[size=13.333333969116211px][/size]
[size=13.333333969116211px]Well... that all changed when I arrived. They were doing some maintenance on the lambo I chose, so they asked me if I would like to drive the 458 instead. They insisted it would be better, but I tried not to seem too excited. They said they'd let me drive that and then let me drive the lesser Lambo for a few laps when I finished driving the Ferrari as further compensation for the loss of the better lambo. I was pretty dang happy about that idea, so off we went. [/size][size=13.333333969116211px][/size]
[size=13.333333969116211px][/size]
[size=13.333333969116211px]In summary, I am SO glad things happened the way they did. I came to learn several new things that day. For one, Lambos are utter **** on the track compared to [/size]Ferraris[size=13.333333969116211px]. The 458 is an absolute track weapon and too much car for me on the track without some serious practice first if I'm honest. The Audi R8 is the complete opposite of a piece of **** even though it is also made by Volkswagen Audi Group and is AWD.[/size][size=13.333333969116211px][/size]
[size=13.333333969116211px][/size]
[size=13.333333969116211px]As I mentioned, I got the 458 on the track and was thoroughly impressed with it in every way possible other than the noise it makes (I just don't like flat-plane V8 sounds compared to a V-anything) and the lack of headroom with a helmet. I'm 6' even, so if you are tall, watch out in this car. You definitely will not like driving it with a helmet on. I was lucky to get an awesome instructor who encouraged me to push the car and get the fastest [/size]lap times[size=13.333333969116211px] I possibly could. Yes, they do have a way to limit the car's power (it's like a potentiometer that can retard throttle position), but they will only use it if you are a crazy idiot and not listening to anything they tell you... like when to hit the brakes for example! They also block off the speedometer because it tends to distract people from the driving (there are a lot of tards who go out there attempting to drive these things). You get to see the rev-counter though, and that is all I really care about. Entry speed in corners should not be done by a number, but by feel in my opinion. [/size][size=13.333333969116211px][/size]
[size=13.333333969116211px][/size]
[size=13.333333969116211px]So as I said, the 458 was a little bit too much car for me. Part of the track is on the infield of the raceway there, and part is on the banked section of their NASCAR!!!! track. I could feel the traction control kick in through that corner at 90 mph if I tried to exit too hard, and upon entering too fast one time, the car started to walk up the [/size]banking[size=13.333333969116211px] toward the wall. That was a ton of fun for me, and the instructor guided me through the whole thing keeping me right on the edge of the car's capabilities as long as my driving could keep up. Unfortunately it couldn't on the infield... I consider myself pretty decent at navigating and finding the apex on nice connecting sweepers, but am just not used to dealing with tight, autocross-ish turns. My inexperience really showed there. I just couldn't believe how fast that car was around the track. I've been in much faster cars in a straight line, but nothing that could navigate around the track the way that 458 Italia could. I would NOT drive that car with the traction control off, at least not until gaining some serious seat-time in it. Also, this was the first time in my life I've ever said that a car should have a flappy-paddle gearbox. It is just too fast for a manual transmission... honestly.[/size][size=13.333333969116211px][/size]
[size=13.333333969116211px][/size]
[size=13.333333969116211px]After that, I got a few laps in with the Lambo LP5(60?) Superleggera. First impressions were that the interior was incredibly awesome and the levels of grip were awesome as well.. I could nail it anywhere in that 90 mph banked turn without a hint of traction loss. After 1.5 or two laps, I broke it. It started thunking around the big banked turn one time and then it went into limp-mode which we couldn't fix. Mind you, the other lambo was down for the count all day as well. That speaks for the reliability a little bit, not that the Ferrari is likely much better. There were a few other things I noticed immediately... the steering feel was not there in the car, nor was any kind of feel really. The dynamics of the handling just wasn't there either... there was definitely some understeer plow present. The worst killer was the gearbox. What a hunk of ****. Every single shift results in the car lurching forward, pausing, and then slamming back into gear which seriously unsettles the car when it is at speed around any kind of turn. Of course, with a 6-speed it would have been much better.[/size][size=13.333333969116211px][/size]
[size=13.333333969116211px][/size]
[size=13.333333969116211px]Since the Lambo broke, they offered me a lap or two in the V10 R8. I am so glad I got the [/size]opportunity[size=13.333333969116211px] to drive that too because it is such a different beast than the Lambo. It is much more neutral-handling, there is some feel involved in all of the control systems, the gearbox shifts significantly better (strange since I assume it is basically the same thing) and it retains the awesome grip of the AWD system and that awesome Audi/Lambo V10 engine. It isn't as fast as the Ferrari... in fact it really doesn't do anything as well as the Ferrari, but it sure does them well for a heck of a lot less money. I don't understand how people can have them sitting in their garage... I'd buy one and take it to the track as often as possible... and I really may consider that one day! [/size][size=13.333333969116211px][/size]
[size=13.333333969116211px][/size]
[size=13.333333969116211px]In the end, it was totally worth the price of admission. I got more than I bargained for which was nice, but I would have been just as excited about it if I hadn't. If you don't come back from doing this with a huge smile plastered to your face, you aren't a human being.[/size]
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
[size=13.333333969116211px]On another note, I just drove my M5 for the first time in two months and WHAT A CAR! Gotta love it [/size]

Wow great read, thanks so much for posting!! It does seem like the 458 Italia is the better car. The R8 is a great car, but from what I read (and specs), it cannot keep up with the 458 and the gallardo. And I love the M5 as well. Did you drive the V10 model (E60) or the V8 model (F10)?