Can I say how BAD ASS Aretha Franklin is?
Jan 15, 2006 at 7:33 PM Thread Starter Post #1 of 13

Jeff Guidry

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I had been a fan of her music ever since I heard her version of Ray Charles' "Drown in My Own Tears" on a late night drive on a college radio station. On the strength of that single, I got The Delta Meets Detroit: Aretha's Blues, a fascinating and deeply rewarding compilation of her blues numbers for Atlantic.

So when I got my yourmusic.com membership, the Aretha Franklin box set Queen of Soul was an obvious choice, especially for four discs at a paltry 24 bux with shipping.

Little did I know how deeply affecting this choice would be. After going through only the first two discs I've struck on the most important music purchase I have yet made. Of course, Aretha Franklin is part of all of our pop music consciousness' because of her landmark hits we all know by heart. But hearing her non-hits and how intensely they bang and stomp decades later makes the big hits sound sweeter than they have in a while, and puts them into marvelous perspective.

If a person unfamiliar with the United States came to me and wanted to know what art best represented our culture, I would play him this Aretha Franklin box set.
 
Jan 15, 2006 at 7:54 PM Post #2 of 13
Jeff,
Very cool, that's a great box set. Sonically, I like the Rhino '95 remasters slightly better, but I certainly wouldn't want that to dampen your enthusiasm!

Not sure if you're a 60's soul music fan or if this is your first purchase in that category, but there's a whole world of this stuff that's just as good waiting for you to explore. Might I suggest some Otis Redding, perhaps the 2CD set, Dreams To Remember? Otis wrote "Respect" (and a million other greats, too), which is a somewhat misogynistic song with Otis playfully demanding his woman basically give him "respect" around the house when he gets home because he works hard and pays the bills. Aretha took it and flipped it, making it a feminist anthem (but for me Otis' version is still definitive, damn it rocks). Anyway, Otis Redding gives me goosebumps, it's eerie how good he is.

I had a similar "come to Jesus" moment with 60's soul (especially authentic Southern soul, though I really do love Motown as well) that I think impacted me maybe more than anything else I ever heard. I worked in a record store as a teen and early twenty-something. Circa '88 at the age of 18, my manager put in a CD of Atlantic soul music. It was a slow morning, and I had time to sit and read the booklet and listen to the music.

In short, I was knocked out. Cold. I was on a mission after that. I read books on the subject, and I've been building my soul music collection ever since. I think it really opened me up musically to new ideas, and to get a grip on the fact that "old" "commercial" music about sappy things like love could be high art, and cool too. It didn't all have to all be angry wasted white boys to be "authentic" or "real"; in fact it made so much of that stuff just seem ridiculous.
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In that moment I went from a hipster specialist, into a catholic generalist. Nothing was off-limits (well, except classical and Jazz, which still elude me
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), the rock 'n soul world was my oyster and still is.

5,000 CDs later...
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Jan 15, 2006 at 8:31 PM Post #3 of 13
Excellent insights. If I purchase a high quality source or get a standalone DAC, I might consider those remasters you mention. While I am using my 500v with the line out I doubt if it will make much difference in my enjoyment.

I am very much on the crest of the wave that you were on nearly two decades ago. I am hunting and pecking primarily in black female vocalists, listening to my Billie Holliday box set (which does not enrapture me in the way Aunt Rea does) and trying to find the thing that I find interesting about music like this. Aretha Franklin's bold personal statements are the most effective, and the funky grooves and hot horns of the punchier numbers are the ones that really set me off.

Horns, I think, are the key for me. All of the most affecting non-hit Franklin songs have really great horn arrangements (The House That Jack Built, Today I Sing the Blues, etc.) If you can suggest some blues/soul music that takes best advantage of horns, I would be most grateful.
 
Jan 15, 2006 at 10:08 PM Post #4 of 13
Jeff,
Gosh where to start...

Maybe you'll indulge a little history. There are basically 3 streams of classic soul music (vastly over-simplified, there are all kinds of other regional soul hot-beds):

1. The Detroit sound (i.e. Motown). Soul music polished up and made pretty mainly for a white teen audience, owned by black owner (Berry Gordy) and music made by black performers/writers. Arguably a bit vanilla, but only when compared to the "deep" Southern soul sound. Still, backed by the Funk Brothers, and with all the classic songwriters they had, this is still some of the best music made. Their stars were sent to finishing school, and were always respectable role models dressed well. Berry Gordy didn't want to alienate the white audience or white radio. You've got the Temptations, Supremes, Smokey Robinson (whom Dylan called the greatest pop-music writer ever), but especially Marvin Gaye and Stevie Wonder, who in the early 70's going forward, won their artistic freedom and took the music to a whole new level. The Marvin Gaye box set, The Master is fantastic. The Stevie Wonder Box Set, At The Close Of A Century is also good, but his work takes a quality dip in the early 80's making the last CD kind of patchy. But discs 2 and 3 are mind-blowing, he's not called a "genius" for nothing.

2. Sothern Soul. Black music for the black market, made by integrated groups, often called "gut-bucket" due to its gospel and blues foundation. You have the Memphis sound, dominated by the mighty Stax label, and the Muscle Shoals, Alabama sound, the deepest soul of all, centered around Fame Studios. Stax had one of the best house bands, Booket T. and the MG's, they played on and wrote most of what came out of 60's Stax. White guitar and bass player with a black keyboard player and drummer. You've got the best of all, Otis Redding out of Stax, along with Sam & Dave, Wilson Pickett, and a million more. The Complete Stax/Volt Singles 1959-1968 is the Rosetta Stone, but it's 9 CDs and it ain't cheap. They don't cherry-pick, you get everything that came out of Stax, you can chop it down yourself to a great 5 or 6CD set.

The Muscle Shoals musicians were also integrated. Aretha Franklin went down south after years of unsuccessful playing of uptown Jazz to switch to dirty, gritty soul, and she found her true voice and her legend started. Percy Sledge is also a great example of this style. I'd suggest the concise Very Best Of on Rhino from '98. The great Etta James did a lot of work at Fame, there's a CD exclusively of those sessions called Tell Mama: The Complete Muscle Shoals Sessions from 2001 that is red hot (but some filler). Her box set, The Chess Box is better, though, covers her whole career at Chess including the stuff she cut at Fame.

3. Philadelphia soul. Smooth, rhythmic more uptown, but funky, danceable horn-driven, eventually morphed into disco. Starts in the late 60's peaks in the early 70s (tends to be better-recorded, too). Dominated by the Thom Bell sound and the Gamble & Huff sound, with artists like the O'Jays, the Isley Brothers, the Spinners and the Stylistics. There is top-notch 3CD Gamble & Huff anthology called The Philly Sound 1966-76. The O'jays put out a million great early to mid 70's albums, all in remastered form, but I chielfy recommend Ship Ahoy from 2001. There is an SACD version that is amazing, if you have SACD. Same is true of the Isley Brothers best 3x3, the SACD is king, but the 2001 remaster not far behind. Very well-recoded albums, both.

OK, all that said, as first steps, I'd really consider the following:

1. Otis Redding Dreams to Remember 2CD set.

2. The Philly Sound box set.

3. Beg, Scream, Shout! 60's soul box set from Rhino, a kind of Holy Grail, very rare and expesnive but 6CDs of the best. It's the easiest way to collect this stuff, but it focuses more on the obscure artists, so you'll also need:

4. Soul Spectacular, 4CD box set on Rhino from 2001. About 1 CD worth of overlap with Beg Scream Shout, these are the best-known soul classics.

5. Can You Dig It: The 70s Soul Experience from 2001. Soul music didn't stop in 1969, the early 70s were an equally fertile period, this is also an essential purchase.

These box sets will give you a flavor for the major artists in the genre, and you can go from there to explore their individual catalogs. When you see things on the Rhino label, that is generally a mark of quality, both sonically and especially in terms of presentation, their booklets are great. They specialize in a lot of this material. Scan ebay for the best deals.

*phew* Good luck, it'll be a fun journey filled with a million discoveries.

EDIT: P.S. For your reading pleasure, the definitive tome is Peter Guralnick's excellent Sweet Soul Music: Rhythm and Blues and the Southern Dream of Freedom. He's an excellent music writer, and soul music devotee, and brings this material to life.
 
Jan 15, 2006 at 10:15 PM Post #5 of 13
A most amazing contribution to my day! Thanks, Mark, for this insight and for the most excellent user's guide which I'll most certainly follow (or at least some of it).

As for Aretha, ya... she's not half bad!
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Jan 15, 2006 at 10:52 PM Post #7 of 13
Ok, so I'm now back form another trip to yourmusic.com...

The Stevie Wonder and Marvin Gaye box sets are on their way, along with Aretha's "Queen of Soul: The Atlantic Recordings" (4 disc set) and "Amazing Grace: The Complete Recordings" (2 disc set, all gospel). Both of the Aretha boxes are from Rhino, and thus sure winners.
 
Jan 15, 2006 at 11:21 PM Post #8 of 13
Wayne, you do not mess around.
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Jeff,
Left off a few others I wanted to mention, that also both feature great horn work. I left Al Green out of the Memphis soul section, he was on Hi records. Best 2CD set (I compared 3 sonically) is from 2000 called Take Me to The River. Great, sexy, sweaty, horn-drenched stuff. The single CD Greatest Hits Gold CD on DCC is also, obviously great but expensive.

And then there's James Brown. Funky horns galore, doesn't get much more soulful or funky than James. Here are the essentials:

1. Foundations of Funk: A Brand New Bag, 1964-1969. 1996 Polydor. 27 tracks on 2 discs.

2. Funk Power 1970. The brief Bootsy Collins period, one CD. 1996 Polydor.

3. Make it Funky--1971-75. A 2-disc set, also 1996 Polydor.

Those have the best sound, best track selection, and the FULL versions of those jams, they aren't edited or cut off as they are on the Star Time box set. Grittiest, raunchiest, sweatiest, flat-out b*llsiest soul/funk there is...
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Oops. then there's Tower of Power horns, maybe more funk than soul, but some of the horniest horns there are. What Is Hip? 2CD set from Rhino 1999 is great.


Like I said, it's practically bottomless...
 
Jan 16, 2006 at 1:58 PM Post #9 of 13
Now for the most important question: best soul headphones?

P.S. What do you think of the Stax/Volt Singles 68-71 collection? A guy on ebay is selling both collections at low starting bids.
 
Jan 19, 2006 at 7:48 PM Post #10 of 13
Wow, my latest Southern soul set is in, Candi Staton's self-titled best of her Fame Studios material before she went disco from 2003/4 (depending on where CD was pressed). Holy cow, this is some damn fine gritty, earthy soul. This is the first time most of this stuff has ever been on CD, most of this used to be highly collectible vinyl. They did a fine job mastering it, too. I think this is even better than the sides Etta James cut at Fame. Terrific stuff!

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Jan 19, 2006 at 8:09 PM Post #11 of 13
Did someone say Tower of Power?
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I'm all about What Is Hip! One of my fave playlists is my Funk/Soul playlist, which grooves on for hours!
 
Jan 20, 2006 at 11:59 PM Post #12 of 13
I'm sitting in front of the Stax/Volt singles collection you recommended, haven't listened to it yet. Though the Beg, Scream and Shout! collection sounds intriguing, the collectors price that those 6 CDs command is, IMO, at this point not really worth the investment. Is there any other way to collect the tracks on there? Though the cards sounds like a very good addition to the box, if I can get hold of just the music, that would suit me.
 

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