Cambridge DACMagic, anyone? (THREAD II)
Sep 10, 2009 at 5:26 AM Post #226 of 645
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Originally Posted by DeusEx /img/forum/go_quote.gif
So that's why I'm also considering the Compass...sigh..


OK, look at it this way; the DM has a better DAC, and then you'll be able to choose which amp you pair it with, giving you a choice of how you'd like to tweak the DAc for sound.

I guess it comes down to how much you have, and want, to spend.
 
Sep 10, 2009 at 7:31 AM Post #227 of 645
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Originally Posted by Drubbing /img/forum/go_quote.gif
OK, look at it this way; the DM has a better DAC, and then you'll be able to choose which amp you pair it with, giving you a choice of how you'd like to tweak the DAc for sound.

I guess it comes down to how much you have, and want, to spend.



CA DM mates fabulously with Audio-GD Roc headamp. If Roc is out of reach, C-2C (upgraded version) could be viable (non-balanced) option.

It is really "how much you have, and want, to spend".
 
Sep 10, 2009 at 12:37 PM Post #228 of 645
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Originally Posted by Mr C /img/forum/go_quote.gif
I'm planning to use this baby with active speakers, anyone know of a device I could use to control the volume coming out of this?


Hi, I have the DacMagic in a balanced setup with active speakers and I use the TC Level Pilot to adjust volume.
TC Electronic | Level Pilot

It works like a charm.
 
Sep 10, 2009 at 1:53 PM Post #229 of 645
Alright, my DACMagic has come in, but now need to find a proper power supply. I would assume any 12V, 1.5A AC power supply would work? Or does anyone have any suggestions where to find one? Bought it from a guy in HK, so that PSU (which, incidentally, has cracked) would not work here.
 
Sep 10, 2009 at 4:58 PM Post #230 of 645
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Originally Posted by azncookiecutter /img/forum/go_quote.gif
I would assume any 12V, 1.5A AC power supply would work? Or does anyone have any suggestions where to find one?


Actually, it would not hurt to get 2,5A - 3A (30VA - 40VA) 12V AC power supply... I am using Little Pinkie, PSU for Musical Fidelity X-CAN V3... used it before for MF X-Can V2, works very good with CA DacMagic.
 
Sep 10, 2009 at 5:21 PM Post #231 of 645
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Originally Posted by FauDrei /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Actually, it would not hurt to get 2,5A - 3A (30VA - 40VA) 12V AC power supply... I am using Little Pinkie, PSU for Musical Fidelity X-CAN V3... used it before for MF X-Can V2, works very good with CA DacMagic.


Saw that PSU, but a bit too expensive. Need to cheap out, wallet's been under heavy abuse the past month or so.
 
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Sep 12, 2009 at 4:25 PM Post #233 of 645
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Originally Posted by larki /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Hi, I have the DacMagic in a balanced setup with active speakers and I use the TC Level Pilot to adjust volume.
TC Electronic | Level Pilot

It works like a charm.



nice looking pot

If I had a balanced speaker setup, I'd seriously consider buying it
 
Sep 12, 2009 at 6:54 PM Post #234 of 645
I almost bought that Knob to control my monitors but the cable management looks horrible. You'll probably need patches to connect the monitors to the knob and the cable is already very long. I was told (or red someone being told) that the cable after passive volume control has to be as short as possible and low capacitance.

I had bought it if it wasn't for that detail.

Here you can see the cables: YouTube - Sonic LAB - Level Pilot - TC Electronic
 
Sep 13, 2009 at 2:13 AM Post #235 of 645
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Originally Posted by roker /img/forum/go_quote.gif
nice looking pot

If I had a balanced speaker setup, I'd seriously consider buying it



Roker, you sent the DacMagic back. How is the Keces 151 in comparison?
 
Sep 13, 2009 at 3:37 AM Post #236 of 645
Well the Dacmagic made the recommended component list in Stereophile. B rated, which is good, esp at the price. I noticed the V-Dac made it too but I was surprised that it was in the C rated section. I heard so much about how it was soooo much better than the Dacmagic early on when i first bought my Dacmagic. Guess when hype dies reality sets in.
 
Sep 13, 2009 at 4:48 PM Post #237 of 645
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Originally Posted by Bloodoath /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Roker, you sent the DacMagic back. How is the Keces 151 in comparison?


Pasted from another thread, but overall I think the DacMagic is still a great DAC. I know I said I don't think it "shines" in anything, but it has more of a well rounded sound and it was more forgiving when it came to bad recordings than the Keces. You can't go wrong either way. I wouldn't have been disappointed had I not been forced to return it.

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Build Quality:

Keces > Dacmagic

The 151 is built like a tank. It has a nice power supply built in and the smoked plexi glass is a nice touch. The DacMagic is nice as well, but the power supply is a merely passable and there is no way to upgrade it. I like that you can put it on the side to save desktop space. I was one of the unlucky few that got static issues with the DacMagic (others have reported high pitched noises as well) while people in the UK got faulty power supply units (they outsourced to the wrong company apparently), this has impacted my decision in regards to the build quality unfortunately.

Versatility:

DacMagic > Keces 151

We have USB for the 152 or you have to purchase the 131 for optical/coax. Also, the Keces DACs only have one output option through RCAs. The DacMagic on the other hand has multiple inputs (3 if you include the USB), and two outputs, RCA and XLR. Nice to have those there. I can imagine someone could hook up their computer, Xbox 360, PS3, CD Player, etc. to the DacMagic and use multiple audio sources.

Sound:

(no verdict)

Sound is subjective. I found that the highs, vocals, and midrange, were very pronounced in the DacMagic. It has an almost analytical feel to it. The bass was tight but not overbearing. Good clean bass, quick attack. Overall, it was quite versatile. I'd say it's more versatile with different genres over the Keces, but I don't feel like it "shines" with anything in particular either.

The Keces I found has a more musical tone to it. The bass is a bit deeper. It seems more natural. I also found the that instrument decay is nicer with this DAC. The resonance of guitars is very pleasant. It might not be that analytical (this could be a good or bad thing depending on your view), but it shines when it comes to being musical. Dead quiet, deep bass, and nice instrument decay. A bit lacking in the highs though.

Conclusion:

I used to think I preferred the music I listen to be more on the analytical side of things, but I think overall I'd rather have something considered "warm" and musical. It all boils down to your tastes. You could research this stuff all day and even try to base it on the genres you listen to, features (upsample, oversample, NOS, tube, opamp, etc.), reputation, etc. but there's no easy answer.

The only way to find out which kind of DAC works for you is to listen to as many as you can (meetups are ideal for this) until you land on the one that conforms to your preferences. Buy one of the DACs listed (new or used, up to you), try it out for a while. If you don't like it, then sell it on the forums (if it's a newer DAC you'll get back a good portion of your investment). I almost re-bought a Fubar II (my first DAC) because after hearing some of the more expensive ones, I came to the conclusion that it was still a decent DAC for my speakers.


 
Sep 18, 2009 at 4:23 AM Post #239 of 645
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Originally Posted by regal /img/forum/go_quote.gif
So which DAC chip is in this and is it a discrete analog stage or opamp?


Dual Wolfson WM8740 24bit DACs. Do not know the rest.
 
Sep 18, 2009 at 6:02 AM Post #240 of 645
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Originally Posted by regal /img/forum/go_quote.gif
So which DAC chip is in this and is it a discrete analog stage or opamp?


Doesn't have opamps. apparently some people have modded it and added an opamp. To what purpose and result, I have no idea.
 

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