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Hmm, well keep in mind that despite the similar bass-mid cohesion, treble still has that grain and slight tinge on the Sonys. Also the remote is a bit more "plasticky" and thin compared to the X10s.
Not trying to talk it down though, they have it beat in terms of lateral stage size, very expansive. Usually people haven't complained too much about defects, so give it a go, why not.
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Just a side note, I have a similar growth, except that it grows outwards instead.
Comfort (in this case), durability, isolation - taking in the practical factors the Etys are a cinch. Better safe than sorry. But sound wise, they definitely aren't lush - that would go to the similarly shaped X10 - though the volume controls likely won't work on your S4 (if you read the quote above me though they've got it working fine otherwise), but the build thing he experienced is definitely something to consider.
The Etys have a similar level of crispness, clarity, immediacy as does the HE-400, but the tonal balance is rather disparate as they have slightly elevated upper-mids as compared to the HE-400's shelf in that area. But considering the fit, you most likely will have to compromise on some areas in terms of sound - there simply aren't many IEM with a similar tonal balance as with the HiFiMANs. The UE900s are the closest I can think of but that's irrelevant to your situation.
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Out of the lot, immediately the W4R or the UM3X can be singled out as being not particularly "neutral". Both are lush and forward in the mids, the W4s have an especially prominent bump in the midbass. The smaller nozzles on the Westones also lead to less isolation in general, at least when compared to the other choices. Separation is amazingly prominent within the role of the UM3X's presentation, and it is linear-ish for the most part though, so would still keep that in the running - the W4s - less so unless you're willing to add some extra resistance with an impedance adapter - brings the treble up for a tad bit more balance.
The SE535s are a tad mid forward and rather linear, at least in the bass. But the lack of treble and basically a lack of attack during leading note transients give it a lesser sense of dynamics and technicalities - i.e. the separation and other technical qualities aren't as apparent off the bat.
No comment on the 4.Ai as the length of auditioning time was less than ideal, also I didn't care much for it as the UE900s were just next to it and it was much more attention-grabbing.
The UE900s - detailing is very evident (natural detailing and microdetail is around the same for the 5, but the 900s push out a bit more due to the clearer presentation - which also aids in separation and other technical aspects). Isolation is slightly better than the rest (apart from maybe the Shures) for me due to the nozzle size, although your results might differ. VERY linear, a slight dip in the upper mids, subbass has a slight bump (it smooths out and is basically flat to these ears - much like the HE-400 experience) and the treble has a tad bit of sparkle but remains smooth as well. Although the note presentation emphasizes clarity without being edgy or abrasive. Subjectively I also like these better for the genres you listed, but that would also vary from person to person.
I think you can guess by now which one I'm voting for
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Ouch, never experienced the bundling thing but then again, it's not like I owned them for a significant period of time - rather, I was a tad bit late on the M50 front.
Rich bass, clean mids/treble, looks nice, under 200, more portable - I think I'll have to put my vote in for the M-80.
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Don't think many have had those since they are relatively new (last month-ish release...wait are they even out to the public yet?). Warren might have, but I wouldn't be sure.
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I can't imagine something being over the ear but yet being of a similar size to the on-ear ESW9A. Not to mention something that would (presumably) have to sound good and isolate. Perhaps some clarification, compromise, etc?
Also genres are helpful, but in the long run we all value different presentations of different genres. Stating sound/signature preferences, specific characteristics you look for when listening to said genres, etc, would be vastly more helpful.
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Any criteria sound-wise? Sound signature, genres, particular characteristics that you prioritize while listening to said genres? Not to mention build, comfort, size, isolation, etc (nothing white and easily stain-prone - got it)
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I think you're trying to describe the effects of sibilance - won't get into ear resonance or anything. So something not harsh. Since you have a variety of choices it'd probably do you better if you specified more in terms of actual sound preferences - it doesn't have to be filled with jargon, just try your best at describing whichever characteristic you enjoy while listening - as genres can be enjoyed with varying presentations so that makes specifying those slightly less helpful than specifying actual sound preferences.
Also heck no Explosions In the Sky isn't that watered down, it's still post-rock for the most part - how dare you refer to it as being ambient!
Out of the lot though, some basic sound descriptions of the above choices:
R1 - bass-mid heavy, can be a bit overbearing, transient response and very slow decay leads to perceived lack of speed and "muddled" sound. Also a tad bit dark.
UE600 - rebranded SuperFi 5s, yes - some have reported worse build compared to the old UEs - warmth, clean, A bit of a U/V to these ears although lower mids are filled out.
R-30 - warm, pleasant, very nice soundstage width, mid-forward. Treble is pushed back but not terribly rolled off.
R-20 - punchy, tactile in a sense, warm, Ety-like upper mids (that is to say, emphasised).
A151 - also punchy, but dark and very non-fatiguing. Extraordinarily clean - probably the cleanest out of the lot.
Hmm, well keep in mind that despite the similar bass-mid cohesion, treble still has that grain and slight tinge on the Sonys. Also the remote is a bit more "plasticky" and thin compared to the X10s.
Not trying to talk it down though, they have it beat in terms of lateral stage size, very expansive. Usually people haven't complained too much about defects, so give it a go, why not.
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Hi, I'm looking for a new pair of IEM's for around 150 euros ~ 150 dollars (since the price in dollars and price in euro's are usually the same, even though the dollar is worth less)
I need help looking for a pair that will fit my ears, since I have a weird right-ear. My right ear has a lump of flesh that a normal person does not have.
I started looking for IEM's such as Shure 215's and Sony XBA's, Sennheiser etc.. and what struck me was the housing of IEM's. The housings are 'big'. This got me worried since I have a piece of flesh on my right-ear, that'll get in the way of said Shure 215 (guessing from the size of these things). So I really am wondering if those kind of things can fit my right ear.
E.G. this guy with the Sony XBA's, I think the housing wont fit into my right-ear:
http://asia.cnet.com/i/r/2011/mpa/62211572/xba_worn_600x300.jpg
I then looked for Etymotic HF5's and though it seems like they can most likely fit my ear, I still am looking for help from others. In case I miss something.
I used to have a pair of Sunrise SW-Xcape IE, but they hurt my ears. They were a little bit loose and if I wanted to insert them deeper into my ear canal, the housing touched my ears and caused stress around it. I can insert a pair of earplugs about 1.5cm into my ears. The IEM's that samsung provides with their smartphone, the white one with volume control, shipped default with GS3 and GS4 and most likely other mobile phone models from samsung, fit me. Though the flanges are a little too small. It's still a little bit loose with the biggest flanges.
My sister has sennheiser CX300's and I like to insert them very deep into my ear. My preference is most likely deep-insertion, so Etymotic's seem interesting.
These should also be durable since I will most likely store them in my jacket (in a separate section) and use these when I don't have my headphones with me. I used to have a pair of cheap ass sony IEM's and they lasted about 4 years before finally breaking, the housing broke. So I guess I'm quite careful for my IEM's. But still, durability is important.
What I'm looking for in the IEM's are:
-Comfort
-Durability (big key, since I will store them in my jacket)
-Isolation
Source: samsung galaxy S4
Sound wise, a resemblance to the HE400 and HD25 are preferred with the lush mids of the MDR-1R
Volume controls are nice, but not a requirement.
I currently have a hifiman HE-400, sennheiser HD 25 1-II, Sony MDR-1R. (And an ipod classic with e07k, but I will most likely not use the IEM's with the ipod setup)
Just a side note, I have a similar growth, except that it grows outwards instead.
Comfort (in this case), durability, isolation - taking in the practical factors the Etys are a cinch. Better safe than sorry. But sound wise, they definitely aren't lush - that would go to the similarly shaped X10 - though the volume controls likely won't work on your S4 (if you read the quote above me though they've got it working fine otherwise), but the build thing he experienced is definitely something to consider.
The Etys have a similar level of crispness, clarity, immediacy as does the HE-400, but the tonal balance is rather disparate as they have slightly elevated upper-mids as compared to the HE-400's shelf in that area. But considering the fit, you most likely will have to compromise on some areas in terms of sound - there simply aren't many IEM with a similar tonal balance as with the HiFiMANs. The UE900s are the closest I can think of but that's irrelevant to your situation.
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Hello forum!
Im thinking of getting a new UIEM in the range of $400-500. I mainly listen to indie songs and occasionally rock and high bass songs.
I look for detail,isolation,instrument separation and most importantly how neutral it is.
I have been looking all over the internet and have narrowed my choices to:
- Westone 4R
- Westone UM3x
- Ue900
- SE535
- Heir 4.Ai
If there's anything else i should try out please let me know. Thank you so much in advance for the advice
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Out of the lot, immediately the W4R or the UM3X can be singled out as being not particularly "neutral". Both are lush and forward in the mids, the W4s have an especially prominent bump in the midbass. The smaller nozzles on the Westones also lead to less isolation in general, at least when compared to the other choices. Separation is amazingly prominent within the role of the UM3X's presentation, and it is linear-ish for the most part though, so would still keep that in the running - the W4s - less so unless you're willing to add some extra resistance with an impedance adapter - brings the treble up for a tad bit more balance.
The SE535s are a tad mid forward and rather linear, at least in the bass. But the lack of treble and basically a lack of attack during leading note transients give it a lesser sense of dynamics and technicalities - i.e. the separation and other technical qualities aren't as apparent off the bat.
No comment on the 4.Ai as the length of auditioning time was less than ideal, also I didn't care much for it as the UE900s were just next to it and it was much more attention-grabbing.
The UE900s - detailing is very evident (natural detailing and microdetail is around the same for the 5, but the 900s push out a bit more due to the clearer presentation - which also aids in separation and other technical aspects). Isolation is slightly better than the rest (apart from maybe the Shures) for me due to the nozzle size, although your results might differ. VERY linear, a slight dip in the upper mids, subbass has a slight bump (it smooths out and is basically flat to these ears - much like the HE-400 experience) and the treble has a tad bit of sparkle but remains smooth as well. Although the note presentation emphasizes clarity without being edgy or abrasive. Subjectively I also like these better for the genres you listed, but that would also vary from person to person.
I think you can guess by now which one I'm voting for
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Ouch, never experienced the bundling thing but then again, it's not like I owned them for a significant period of time - rather, I was a tad bit late on the M50 front.
Rich bass, clean mids/treble, looks nice, under 200, more portable - I think I'll have to put my vote in for the M-80.
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Don't think many have had those since they are relatively new (last month-ish release...wait are they even out to the public yet?). Warren might have, but I wouldn't be sure.
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I can't imagine something being over the ear but yet being of a similar size to the on-ear ESW9A. Not to mention something that would (presumably) have to sound good and isolate. Perhaps some clarification, compromise, etc?
Also genres are helpful, but in the long run we all value different presentations of different genres. Stating sound/signature preferences, specific characteristics you look for when listening to said genres, etc, would be vastly more helpful.
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Any criteria sound-wise? Sound signature, genres, particular characteristics that you prioritize while listening to said genres? Not to mention build, comfort, size, isolation, etc (nothing white and easily stain-prone - got it)
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I think you're trying to describe the effects of sibilance - won't get into ear resonance or anything. So something not harsh. Since you have a variety of choices it'd probably do you better if you specified more in terms of actual sound preferences - it doesn't have to be filled with jargon, just try your best at describing whichever characteristic you enjoy while listening - as genres can be enjoyed with varying presentations so that makes specifying those slightly less helpful than specifying actual sound preferences.
Also heck no Explosions In the Sky isn't that watered down, it's still post-rock for the most part - how dare you refer to it as being ambient!
Out of the lot though, some basic sound descriptions of the above choices:
R1 - bass-mid heavy, can be a bit overbearing, transient response and very slow decay leads to perceived lack of speed and "muddled" sound. Also a tad bit dark.
UE600 - rebranded SuperFi 5s, yes - some have reported worse build compared to the old UEs - warmth, clean, A bit of a U/V to these ears although lower mids are filled out.
R-30 - warm, pleasant, very nice soundstage width, mid-forward. Treble is pushed back but not terribly rolled off.
R-20 - punchy, tactile in a sense, warm, Ety-like upper mids (that is to say, emphasised).
A151 - also punchy, but dark and very non-fatiguing. Extraordinarily clean - probably the cleanest out of the lot.
