[F107plus5]

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Originally Posted by mattg3 Thanks 107,and is the hole you cut to go over the phone based on a quarter mod size hole or should i use something else to measure the hole? thanks again Matt

Hi Matt!

I started by driving a 13/16" socket through the material after they had been installed for a day or so, so they may have stretched a bit before I punched the holes.(I took the pads off the cans first!

) At any rate the holes weren't quite large enough to reveal all the "rows of holes" visable in the driver screen, so I ended up cutting them big enough that all the rows were then barely showing.

Yuck! My ears are so small that they were hitting the screen!

THAT'S when I took them off and put them on the other way!

Rich.

...actually; a hole about the size of the one already in the pads for mounting would probably work just fine!

 

[EFN]

Be extra careful when you start to cut those HD414, it's a one way ticket. make sure to use fresh cutter blades and if using the Quarter sized object, press them firmly over the pads. Cut carefully by tracing the circle SLOWLY and it should be neat. Good Luck!

 

[mattg3]

Because im one of those people who cant draw a straight line Im thinking of just using the ms1 with no modding at all for fear of ruining a good thing.If I just use the ms1 as it is with my PA2V2 amp will the sound be okay.I might buy a set of 414 pads for comfort benefits but keep them as they are with no cutting.

 

[F107plus5]

I just recalled something! I used a 13/16" socket rather than perhaps something a bit bigger only because my 13/16" had a sharper edge to it!!

All you do, after taking the pads off, is center the socket in the center of the pad and wail away with a hammer!!

I used a piece of soft wood under the pad to take up some of the shock and allow the socket to cut through more easily, but it worked great!!

 

[Cynric]

i finally got my ms1 last week as well

i used reversed and modded 414 pads from the start till today and just tried out the other combinations: comfies, modded comfies and unmodded 414s.
right now i am using non-modded 414s and i really like thier signature as well as their comfort.
STOCK COMFIES: first i tried stock comfies but i missed the clear highs i got used to wearing modded 414s over the past days. tiny soundstage though.
MOD COMFIES: after making ~3cm wide holes into the comfies i tried them again and found a very nice sound with good bass as well as much better highs. still tiny soundstage.
MOD 414: as said i used holed reversed 414 pads for the last days and found very clear and wonderful highs but little bass. the soundstage is bigger than with the comfies.
414 PADS: now i am using my second pair of non-modded hd414 pads; they got nice clear highs as well as a decent bass, soundstage is bigger than with comfies, but i cant say if theres a difference to modded/reversed 414s.

i expierienced no discomfort with any of the pads.
right now i like unmodded 414 pads the most (slightly followed by modded comfies); but i might test all pads again in a few days and might get a different result then

all in all great phones with wonderful sound and a good value

i might get myself a third pair of 414 pads and make a smaller hole (my rev'd mod pads have too big holes to wear them non-rev'd regularly but sound a bit clearer than unmodded 414s) in it some time.

 

[nickchen]

I miss some treble with unmodded 414s, and I miss soundstage with modded comfies. Reversed 414s are just fine (together with slight EQing to bring some bass back). Guess I would like bowls as well, but ~40 bucks shipped to the EU is a ridiculus price for a silly piece of foam.

 

[F107plus5]

That's one of the things that makes MS-1(actually, most Grados' in general)so convienient! We all have different hearing and ear sizes and music preferences, and a bunch of other stuff that effects what we hear, but here we are ablre to find what works best for our own particular situation!

Choice is great!

I ran out of fingers before I ran out of pad sellections availble to us Grado fans

Good stuff indeed!

 

[Cynric]

i just punched tiny 2cm holes through my last set of 414 pads and i think now i have what i want

decent bass, full bright & clear treble and an acceptable soundstage

 

[EFN]

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Originally Posted by Cynric i finally got my ms1 last week as well i used reversed and modded 414 pads from the start till today and just tried out the other combinations: comfies, modded comfies and unmodded 414s. right now i am using non-modded 414s and i really like thier signature as well as their comfort. STOCK COMFIES: first i tried stock comfies but i missed the clear highs i got used to wearing modded 414s over the past days. tiny soundstage though. MOD COMFIES: after making ~3cm wide holes into the comfies i tried them again and found a very nice sound with good bass as well as much better highs. still tiny soundstage. MOD 414: as said i used holed reversed 414 pads for the last days and found very clear and wonderful highs but little bass. the soundstage is bigger than with the comfies. 414 PADS: now i am using my second pair of non-modded hd414 pads; they got nice clear highs as well as a decent bass, soundstage is bigger than with comfies, but i cant say if theres a difference to modded/reversed 414s. i expierienced no discomfort with any of the pads. right now i like unmodded 414 pads the most (slightly followed by modded comfies); but i might test all pads again in a few days and might get a different result then all in all great phones with wonderful sound and a good value i might get myself a third pair of 414 pads and make a smaller hole (my rev'd mod pads have too big holes to wear them non-rev'd regularly but sound a bit clearer than unmodded 414s) in it some time.

Congatulations onf your purchase!! the MS-1 grew bigger everyday

 

[EFN]

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Originally Posted by F107plus5 I just recalled something! I used a 13/16" socket rather than perhaps something a bit bigger only because my 13/16" had a sharper edge to it!! All you do, after taking the pads off, is center the socket in the center of the pad and wail away with a hammer!! I used a piece of soft wood under the pad to take up some of the shock and allow the socket to cut through more easily, but it worked great!!

A HAMMER!?

now that's some idea LOL! Hammer & Headphone modding was unheard of before but I will give it a try in my quest for a perfect cut

 

[knalb]

comfies are the pads it comes with? i'm near ordering my pair...

 

[EFN]

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Originally Posted by knalb comfies are the pads it comes with? i'm near ordering my pair...

Yep, the very same comfies used for SR60. While it's fairly good for comfort but it also introduced a veil to the sound. That's why you get to see so many holed comfies here in Head-Fi

 

[F107plus5]

Since were talkin' about pads here, I'm gonna drift off topic for just a moment.

I wandered out here this morning and instantly put on some tunes with my MS2i with bowls and noticed that, having had my MS2i for just about month now, the bowls have magically gotten softer overnight!

They actually DO get better over time!

 

[EFN]

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Originally Posted by F107plus5 Since were talkin' about pads here, I'm gonna drift off topic for just a moment. I wandered out here this morning and instantly put on some tunes with my MS2i with bowls and noticed that, having had my MS2i for just about month now, the bowls have magically gotten softer overnight! They actually DO get better over time!

Yeah I read the same thing too. Bowls get comfy as you use them frequently. The Soundstage and articulation they offer will justify running them in and endure the breaking in soreness

 

[F107plus5]

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Originally Posted by EFN Yeah I read the same thing too. Bowls get comfy as you use them frequently. The Soundstage and articulation they offer will justify running them in and endure the breaking in soreness

Very true! They do sound a bit better than my reversed 414s and are getting to be even closer in comfort as well.

One thing I may have done to slow down the break-in process was doing some pad swapping early on.

I suppose it goes without saying, but I failed to note the orientation of the pads when I removed them so that when I reinstalled the bowls I didn't get them back in the same relationship to either my ears or the housings...oops!

Did it really make a difference? I dunno; but I guess it could.