burning the perfect CD
Feb 3, 2002 at 6:40 AM Post #16 of 21
It has to do with the player too, some players are just not
good at reading CDRs if they are old. Making alot of psx
backups tought me that, dark dyes are good and silver backs,
ie like the virbatim disks. Alot of people forget that when buring,
more burning programs defaults to CD-XA, not CD-DA, if you
are buring audio cds, go with CD-DA mode. If I am wrong
SORRY, but thats what my experiences tells me. By the way
I use adaptec for buring and clonecd and cdr-win for dupes,
and my burning mechine is SCSI, and always do audio cds in 2x.
It probably has to do the not muti read player and mutli read
players.





My 2 cents.
 
Feb 3, 2002 at 7:33 AM Post #17 of 21
CD-DA absolutely. SCSI is a wonderful thing...
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I read/burn audio @ 4x. I use KHypermedia 80min Silver CD-R.
 
Feb 3, 2002 at 6:49 PM Post #18 of 21
I suggest you low-speed-burners check the following link on eMedia:

http://www.emedialive.com/EM2000/starrett5.html

It has some pretty interesting tech stuff, especially on BLER and C2 errors at different speeds.
In one of the tests, the block error rate at 4x was higher than at high speeds: "the highest BLER and E11 rates were encountered at 4X, and results essentially leveled out the rest of the way, up to and including 12X."


Their conclusions seem to match what my hears have been telling me for years:

"if you want to make your audio discs with the screamingest, fastest, baddest recorder on the block, go ahead. Let the timid confine themselves to recording at a snail's pace with the hope of improved audio quality. You know better. "

I really don't bother to do low-speeds... except lowering enough to avoid using Z-CLV and having Burn-Proof nanogaps. (That's 16x or less)
 
Feb 3, 2002 at 7:15 PM Post #19 of 21
My Plextor is actually model # W1610A which is a 16/10/40.

So should I read at 12x and write at 12x using EAC and use one of the following?

74 Min:
Taiyo Yuden CDR-R74TY/WTY/TYA/WTYA - Philips Silver Premium CD-R74 - Imation CDR74A - Sony CDQ-74CN
TDK CD-R74S/CD-R74A/CD-R74TFN
Ricoh 74R-SG/74R-SFSGH2/CD-R Type74
Mitsui Chemical CDRT74MG
Kodak CD-R74 EB (Gold)/CD-R74 EBU (Silver)
Pioneer CDM-J74
Mitsubishi Chemical CDR74SA1/CDR74AA1 - Verbatim CD-R74 DataLifePlus

80 Min:
Taiyo Yuden CDR-80TY/WTY
TDK CD-R80A
Ricoh 80R-SFSGH2
Mitsui Chemical CDRT80MG
Mitsubishi Chemical CDR80SA1

Kelly
 
Feb 9, 2002 at 12:11 AM Post #20 of 21
That sounds like a pretty good choice Kelly.

Use EAC in safe mode, with Safe gap determination (Mode B usually works best).
12x and that media will give you good results, but 16x won't hurt either.
 

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