[JaZZ]

Quote:

Originally posted by elnero His "tests" for this tweek go against everything he has said in this thread as he would obviously be predisposed to think that there would be some difference. On the other hand there is plenty of evidence for break-in yet Mike doesn't believe it is real because he hasn't heard it. Skewed logic or what?

The reason lies between the lines.

His own hearing is so excellent and far superior to every one else's, as is his ability to separate illusion from reality. Not to forget his profound knowledge of physics, philosophy and new age...

Apart from that and against all rationality (I can't really take the common physical scenarios in this regard seriously) I believed to detect a small difference in favor of the (black-)marked CD edges (sharper contour, less glare). If they are real, they are tiny, though, and not worth the continuous modification IMO, so I renounce it now.

 

[Mike Scarpitti]

Quote:

Originally posted by gswpete Perhaps it's because burning does not take place instantly, unlike changing cables, installing rf traps, green paint...etc.

Headphones, like loudspeakers, normally benefit from a burn-in period.

We would normally run a pair of headphones in for 24 hours before sending
them for review, for example.

Does this answer you?

Best Regards,

John Willett
Technical Applications Manager - Sennheiser UK
jwillett@sennheiser.co.uk
(Direct line:- +44 (0) 1494 551 540)
(Mobile:- +44 (0) 7973 633 634)

 

[JaZZ]

So, Mike, I think it's time for an apology towards all the people who have «been mislead by their subjectivity» in expectation of sonic changes, while master Mike with his superior hearing and his critical distance to the subject...

What do you think?

 

[Mike Scarpitti]

Quote:

Originally posted by JaZZ So, Mike, I think it's time for an apologee towards all the people who have «been mislead by their subjectivity» in expectation of sonic changes, while master Mike with his superior hearing and his critical distance to the subject... What do you think?

Apologies are normally expressed for offenses against manners or morals. I was wrong on a matter of fact, but I did not act in any way that was improper.

 

[JaZZ]

Now I suggest you to ask Stax if they really build the best headphones of the world...

 

[Mike Scarpitti]

Quote:

Originally posted by JaZZ Now I suggest you to ask Stax if they really build the best headphones of the world...

Now there's a challenge! I'll do that!

 

[SageOHaze]

Quote:

Originally posted by Mike Scarpitti Now there's a challenge! I'll do that!

While you're at it you may as well get your ears examed, something must be wrong if you can't hear the burn-in.


all in favor say "aye"


Also, now... does this burn in happen regardless or are the first 24 hours "critical" somehow? I want to get the most possible sound i can out of my hd280s (coming in the mail today)!

 

[SageOHaze]

I'm also interested in what all the other companies claim, Stephonovich. So please post them when you can.

 

[SageOHaze]

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[Mike Scarpitti]

Quote:

Originally posted by SageOHaze While you're at it you may as well get your ears examed, something must be wrong if you can't hear the burn-in. all in favor say I

Ahem...that would be "Aye", not "I".

 

[SageOHaze]

Quote:

Originally posted by Mike Scarpitti Ahem...that would be "Aye", not "I".

sorry great master of sound. i have corrected it only for you.

 

[JaZZ]

Quote:

Originally posted by SageOHaze ... does this burn in happen regardless or are the first 24 hours "critical" somehow?

Regardless. But pushing it by applying a dedicated break-in over night will offer you better sound earlier.

Nevertheless, you can apply special break-in signals again, after using the headphone regularly, and maybe it will break in a bit further. It doesn't matter how, when and how often you break it in. (IMO)

 

[Beagle]

Quote:

Originally posted by Mike Scarpitti Headphones, like loudspeakers, normally benefit from a burn-in period. We would normally run a pair of headphones in for 24 hours before sending them for review, for example. Does this answer you? Best Regards, John Willett Technical Applications Manager - Sennheiser UK jwillett@sennheiser.co.uk (Direct line:- +44 (0) 1494 551 540) (Mobile:- +44 (0) 7973 633 634)

Ahh, but what are those benefits? What does the 'running in' accomplish?

See, we are back where we started.

 

[Mike Scarpitti]

Quote:

Originally posted by Beagle Ahh, but what are those benefits? What does the 'running in' accomplish? See, we are back where we started.

Write to them. I'm done with this for now.

 

[Stephonovich]

Hi. I've received a reply from Grado, so far. An AOL address, which is odd. And a lovely yellow background. One would think a company would be more professional. Ah well.

Quote:

Yes, there is an actual burn-in time for our headphones and that is about 2 to 3 weeks of normal listening time. The sound absolutely improves. Thanks so much. Regards, Grado Labs

You heard from Sennheiser, Mike, but we shall see about Koss and AT...

BTW, SageOHaze, what package was it that you had the delivery stuff for up here?

(-:Stephonovich