Brise Audio FUGAKU - The world's first Ultimate Portable Audio System

[altomo]

What’s this hex? can someone link a thread to it on headfi?

You should check our the CJ Singapore report here.

It’s basically coming from Mysticraft a new venture company by Lee from Elysian (made the Annihilator & Diva).

 

[Dalmonegrig]

What’s this hex? can someone link a thread to it on headfi?

Here
MYSTICRAFT HEX (USD 9000)

 

[TheMiddleSky]

Seems like the Hex is the latest hype train IEM and it will be on par with the Fugaku. It also costs significantly less, or that would be the case, if the the seller that's the closest wouldn't be in the UK, i know that Eliseaudio only quotes the real price (bought my CP622B from them), which gives it with 8k€ +25-30% another absolutely insane pricetag.
The recent pricings of uber-TOTL IEM's is just ridiculous in my opinion, the manufacturers can just slap any price on it and people will buy it. I thought my APX SE was over the top expensive (and for me it was), since i needed to sell two other "normal priced" TOTL IEM's which i owned.
Even the Immanis does not cost more than 10k€.

Nevermind me ranting, i'm excited to hear (hopefully both of them) at Highend. I really hope (for my wallet) that i don't like any of those two much more than my APX SE. Even if i do, i'll probably just laugh and move on.

If we talk about the price, as Immanis user it's not fair to compare Immanis price to IEM. As we know, we need to use "proper" set up for Immanis, that's extra heft amount of budget. We can just plug Fugaku or HEX to the decent DAPs and they perform well already. Also not to mention their function is different (desktop vs portable).

Between Fugaku and Hex, to decide which one better is really depend on subjective preference. However from people who use full size headphone regularly, Fugaku is still the ultimate form of IEM for me. The density of notes, space of each notes, and the size of each leading notes, are truly out of the world for IEM.

p.s: Yes, these 2 IEMs price at ridiculously high, but same thing with the cost of total set up for Immanis lol.

 

[Exekuhtor]

If we talk about the price, as Immanis user it's not fair to compare Immanis price to IEM. As we know, we need to use "proper" set up for Immanis, that's extra heft amount of budget. We can just plug Fugaku or HEX to the decent DAPs and they perform well already. Also not to mention their function is different (desktop vs portable).

Disagreed.
Especially because the Immanis is a ribbon and the manufacturer is basically one of the the very few people that knows how to work with it and make such a product. Not unlike Lee who perfected the implementation of EST's with the Anni.
Who on earth will use his Hex with an Apple dongle or so. Of course people will use it with their 6k Cayin DAP's. You can also built a very solid chain for less than 3k for the Immanis, probably even close to 2k. And this thing plays in a league of Shangri-La Senior, HE-1 and Aperio. I highly suspect that it will not be eclipsed by anything in the next ten years. Planars don't have the resolution (the best planar is the Susvara Unveiled, it does not reach the Raal in technicalities) and estats don't have the bass and dynamics (the HE-1 uses EQ, same as the Aperio).
The Fugaku comes out, and, what, a year later the Hex arrives? I suspect that we will see at least one other flagship of that caliber in the next year or so. The speed of IEM development is insanely fast, of course it is way slower in the TOTL realm and way faster when it comes to entry or mid-fi IEM's, but it's still on another level than TOTL headphones.

 

[Frankie D]

Disagreed.
Especially because the Immanis is a ribbon and the manufacturer is basically one of the the very few people that knows how to work with it and make such a product. Not unlike Lee who perfected the implementation of EST's with the Anni.
Who on earth will use his Hex with an Apple dongle or so. Of course people will use it with their 6k Cayin DAP's. You can also built a very solid chain for less than 3k for the Immanis, probably even close to 2k. And this thing plays in a league of Shangri-La Senior, HE-1 and Aperio. I highly suspect that it will not be eclipsed by anything in the next ten years. Planars don't have the resolution (the best planar is the Susvara Unveiled, it does not reach the Raal in technicalities) and estats don't have the bass and dynamics (the HE-1 uses EQ, same as the Aperio).
The Fugaku comes out, and, what, a year later the Hex arrives? I suspect that we will see at least one other flagship of that caliber in the next year or so. The speed of IEM development is insanely fast, of course it is way slower in the TOTL realm and way faster when it comes to entry or mid-fi IEM's, but it's still on another level than TOTL headphones.

All good points. I will say this though, the Fugaku is so good, that if it starts being regularly beat out by new models ( vs simply other tunings ) then those new models will eventually be better than everything else on the market, including HPs. I am not sure that can be reality. Will be interesting….

 

[Exekuhtor]

including HPs

I find that extremely hart to believe, how would you be able to achieve the technicalities (speed, transients, resolution) of true electrostatics / ribbons?
Those need special adapters / amps...

I am not sure that can be reality.

Yeah...

 

[jawicedman]

I find Headfi has people that 'believe' in gear much like politics. The latest, newest is better, maybe...maybe. Everything is more: resolving, tactile, slams, tallest soundstage, widest soundstage, if you believe these fools by 2040 IEM's will be dimensionless lol. I say prove it, honestly, if you scrub the name of the item from the review you could almost boiler plate the body of anything.
I don't buy into the hype. A lot of people will listen to an IEM, or own it for a brief time and move to the latest greatest. They buy the newest thing and use their dependable auditory memory to draw a conclusion, often proclaiming the latest things they bought is better. Just no.
I trust my ears and a design philosophy I can buy into. I don't flip IEM's, I search for what I like and keep what I do, anything I sell is for the simple reason that the product does not fit my expectation. Out of the 8 truly TOTL IEM's I own, the fugaku is the most comprehensively good. If my Immanis (due in a couple days) is anything at the level of the fugaku I will consider it money well spent.

As for the hex, don't care. Why is it even brought up?

 

[RonaldS86]

As for the hex, don't care. Why is it even brought up?

Because some of the Fugaku owner that I know bought HEX and sold their Fugaku or at least bought HEX as a complementary IEM for Fugaku. In terms of perfomance it's on par but the bass is still better on the Fugaku. As for the mid and treble area most ppl who tried it on CJ SG said that HEX is better. That's why.

 

[TheMiddleSky]

Honestly I still don't understand as well why need to compare Hex to fugaku. Hex is good, yes, but it's still sound like other TOTL IEM in term of presentation. Fugaku is entirely different being. Totally disagree that Hex has better technicalities than Fugaku as well.

I find Headfi has people that 'believe' in gear much like politics. The latest, newest is better, maybe...maybe. Everything is more: resolving, tactile, slams, tallest soundstage, widest soundstage, if you believe these fools by 2040 IEM's will be dimensionless lol. I say prove it, honestly, if you scrub the name of the item from the review you could almost boiler plate the body of anything.
I don't buy into the hype. A lot of people will listen to an IEM, or own it for a brief time and move to the latest greatest. They buy the newest thing and use their dependable auditory memory to draw a conclusion, often proclaiming the latest things they bought is better. Just no.
I trust my ears and a design philosophy I can buy into. I don't flip IEM's, I search for what I like and keep what I do, anything I sell is for the simple reason that the product does not fit my expectation. Out of the 8 truly TOTL IEM's I own, the fugaku is the most comprehensively good. If my Immanis (due in a couple days) is anything at the level of the fugaku I will consider it money well spent.

As for the hex, don't care. Why is it even brought up?

As we know, the newest toy in head-fi usually got the highest praise no matter what. Need to let people use the Hex for few months, then the reality will hit.

@Exekuhtor Agree that IEM's development is insanely fast compare to full size headphone. I don't know about western market but in Asia, IEM market is much much bigger than headphone, that's for sure. Perhaps that's the main reason IEM development get faster and faster (many IEM makers are from Asia now).

Immanis with "entry level" Aune DAC+Amp pairing sound decent, but with TOTL set up Immanis is not only getting better, it simply transform to something else. Most TOTL IEM's scale up capability seems "pale" in comparison to Immanis capability here. Btw, that Cayin flagship DAP no longer in production. For regular TOTL DAP market the usual price around $3-4k.

 

[jawicedman]

Honestly I still don't understand as well why need to compare Hex to fugaku. Hex is good, yes, but it's still sound like other TOTL IEM in term of presentation. Fugaku is entirely different being. Totally disagree that Hex has better technicalities than Fugaku as well.



As we know, the newest toy in head-fi usually got the highest praise no matter what. Need to let people use the Hex for few months, then the reality will hit.

@Exekuhtor Agree that IEM's development is insanely fast compare to full size headphone. I don't know about western market but in Asia, IEM market is much much bigger than headphone, that's for sure. Perhaps that's the main reason IEM development get faster and faster (many IEM makers are from Asia now).

Immanis with "entry level" Aune DAC+Amp pairing sound decent, but with TOTL set up Immanis is not only getting better, it simply transform to something else. Most TOTL IEM's scale up capability seems "pale" in comparison to Immanis capability here. Btw, that Cayin flagship DAP no longer in production. For regular TOTL DAP market the usual price around $3-4k.

It’s had the intended effect; free advertisement to a captive audience.

 

[aaf evo]

https://vannuys.co.jp/e600/

Looks like VN have put aside two of their mix/match cases to fit the Fugaku and a DAP.

 

[altomo]

https://vannuys.co.jp/e600/

Looks like VN have put aside two of their mix/match cases to fit the Fugaku and a DAP.

Photo from VanNuys

It’s a truly portable setup, but I have a concern about the female 4.4 sockets on both the Fugaku and DAP sides. Brise’s ICs are thick and not easily bendable. Unless you use the IC like the one in the picture, I’m curious what IC is used in the photo above. It appears thick but malleable enough to be compatible with the carrying sleeve. Anyone knows?

The sleeve looks fantastic, though. Yesterday, I actually purchased the leather Fugaku case from VanNuys Shibuya. It’s remarkably precise for a handmade product. I also had the pleasure of meeting the CEO of VanNuys, who is also cool and showed me some of his audio collections. Oh, and he also shared a picture of the new Fugaku carrying sleeve from his website, just like what was mentioned above, but he mentioned that it will take two weeks to make it. Unfortunately, I’ll be returning to my home country soon.

The Shirogane IC, Orochi IC and my SP3000M CN sits perfectly in the case. Additionally, you don’t have to remove the connector, which can theoretically reduce the wear n tear of the female and male 9-pin connectors.

 

[aaf evo]

Photo from VanNuys

It’s a truly portable setup, but I have a concern about the female 4.4 sockets on both the Fugaku and DAP sides. Brise’s ICs are thick and not easily bendable. Unless you use the IC like the one in the picture, I’m curious what IC is used in the photo above. It appears thick but malleable enough to be compatible with the carrying sleeve. Anyone knows?

The sleeve looks fantastic, though. Yesterday, I actually purchased the leather Fugaku case from VanNuys Shibuya. It’s remarkably precise for a handmade product. I also had the pleasure of meeting the CEO of VanNuys, who is also cool and showed me some of his audio collections. Oh, and he also shared a picture of the new Fugaku carrying sleeve from his website, just like what was mentioned above, but he mentioned that it will take two weeks to make it. Unfortunately, I’ll be returning to my home country soon.





The Shirogane IC, Orochi IC and my SP3000M CN sits perfectly in the case. Additionally, you don’t have to remove the connector, which can theoretically reduce the wear n tear of the female and male 9-pin connectors.

We have the exact same setup except I use the nylon version of the VN case SP3000M-CN + Fugaku is wonderful and I love how it all fits into the case so perfectly!

 

[ezekiel77]

Hearing the Fugaku at an audio show. All I can say is it's a religious experience, and changes what I thought possible with IEMs.

I'm not gonna describe the sound I'm just gonna keep listening. It's been an hour lol. Peace out.

 

[jawicedman]

This is my travel solution. The eletech case