Bricasti M1 DAC impressions.
Jun 24, 2015 at 5:03 PM Post #91 of 220
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Jun 24, 2015 at 7:11 PM Post #93 of 220
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Jun 24, 2015 at 8:43 PM Post #95 of 220
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Jun 25, 2015 at 7:26 AM Post #96 of 220
I've owned the Bricasti M1 DAC for almost two years now, which for me is an eternity when it comes to DACs! Mine has all of the latest upgrades including the new DSP board, OCC wiring, and runs v1.22 firmware for DSD128 support. When I heard about a new product being offered which regenerates the USB data signal to lower jitter and reduce phase noise, as well as providing a new regulated 5VDC supply I became interested enough to pursue it. What follows summarizes my experience.
 
Even with all the rave reviews that I've already read about UpTone Audio's USB REGEN, after receiving and installing mine I'm absolutely stunned by the level of improvement it provides. Mine is connected from a laptop PC which has been optimized as a dedicated music server running into the Bricasti M1 DAC. I'm using the Oyaide Continental 5S USB Cable on the input side and the solid USB adapter provided directly into the M1. I also have a PS Audio Perfect Wave Transport (PWT) which I use as an alternative source for PCM file playback up to 24/192 via the AES/EBU DAC input.
 
Before adding the REGEN I greatly preferred the sound quality of files played back from the PWT compared to the same files played via USB from the laptop running JRiver. They had a fuller and more natural quality to them, it wasn't hard to choose a preference between them. Since I can only play DSD files via JRiver on the laptop I was less than thrilled with their sound quality. After adding the REGEN it's an entirely different story, as all file types sourced via USB now sound superb! There is a newly discovered quality that I can best describe as being effortless, relaxed, and very musically engaging. 
 
Yes you can say that the bass is clearer, the midrange smoother, the highs much cleaner, more extended and have greater sparkle (more similar to analog playback.) However the improvement from the REGEN is really much more significant than that, as it just adds an overall level of refinement that was previously missing. It's difficult to put into words but easily heard without the need for any lengthy A/B comparisons, it's really just that obvious.
 
Easily and by far the biggest bang for the buck improvement I've ever heard in my many years of listening. If I spent many thousands of dollars more on a new DAC and heard this level of sonic gains I would be happy, but for only $175 this is value beyond comprehension.
 
I should also mention how easy it was to install the REGEN. After connecting it as described in the instructions I booted my PC. The PC automatically recognized the new USB hub and installed a new driver for it. It then instructed me to reboot and that was it. From that point there was nothing more I had to do - no setting changes in JRiver, no manual loading of other drivers, nothing else at all was required. I wish more PC hardware was so painless to install.
 
My experience is not unique, as there are numerous other informal user reviews posted to various threads in different audio forums mentioned on UpTone Audio's site. They are virtually all rave reviews, with a wide range of DACs being used and the user reports are overwhelmingly positive. Highly recommended in case that was unclear. I have no connection to UpTone Audio other than being a very happy customer.
 
Jun 25, 2015 at 10:03 AM Post #97 of 220
I've owned the Bricasti M1 DAC for almost two years now, which for me is an eternity when it comes to DACs! Mine has all of the latest upgrades including the new DSP board, OCC wiring, and runs v1.22 firmware for DSD128 support. When I heard about a new product being offered which regenerates the USB data signal to lower jitter and reduce phase noise, as well as providing a new regulated 5VDC supply I became interested enough to pursue it. What follows summarizes my experience.

Even with all the rave reviews that I've already read about UpTone Audio's USB REGEN, after receiving and installing mine I'm absolutely stunned by the level of improvement it provides. Mine is connected from a laptop PC which has been optimized as a dedicated music server running into the Bricasti M1 DAC. I'm using the Oyaide Continental 5S USB Cable on the input side and the solid USB adapter provided directly into the M1. I also have a PS Audio Perfect Wave Transport (PWT) which I use as an alternative source for PCM file playback up to 24/192 via the AES/EBU DAC input.

Before adding the REGEN I greatly preferred the sound quality of files played back from the PWT compared to the same files played via USB from the laptop running JRiver. They had a fuller and more natural quality to them, it wasn't hard to choose a preference between them. Since I can only play DSD files via JRiver on the laptop I was less than thrilled with their sound quality. After adding the REGEN it's an entirely different story, as all file types sourced via USB now sound superb! There is a newly discovered quality that I can best describe as being effortless, relaxed, and very musically engaging. 

Yes you can say that the bass is clearer, the midrange smoother, the highs much cleaner, more extended and have greater sparkle (more similar to analog playback.) However the improvement from the REGEN is really much more significant than that, as it just adds an overall level of refinement that was previously missing. It's difficult to put into words but easily heard without the need for any lengthy A/B comparisons, it's really just that obvious.

Easily and by far the biggest bang for the buck improvement I've ever heard in my many years of listening. If I spent many thousands of dollars more on a new DAC and heard this level of sonic gains I would be happy, but for only $175 this is value beyond comprehension.

I should also mention how easy it was to install the REGEN. After connecting it as described in the instructions I booted my PC. The PC automatically recognized the new USB hub and installed a new driver for it. It then instructed me to reboot and that was it. From that point there was nothing more I had to do - no setting changes in JRiver, no manual loading of other drivers, nothing else at all was required. I wish more PC hardware was so painless to install.

My experience is not unique, as there are numerous other informal user reviews posted to various threads in different audio forums mentioned on UpTone Audio's site. They are virtually all rave reviews, with a wide range of DACs being used and the user reports are overwhelmingly positive. Highly recommended in case that was unclear. I have no connection to UpTone Audio other than being a very happy customer.

Are you using the power supply the comes with the units or an external linear power supply?
I have an iUSB and iPurifier between my Mac Mini and my M1. Do you think the REGEN will be better?
 
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Jun 25, 2015 at 10:41 AM Post #98 of 220
Are you using the power supply the comes with the units or an external linear power supply?
I have an iUSB and iPurifier between my Mac Mini and my M1. Do you think the REGEN will be better?

I am using the power supply that is provided with the REGEN for now, but may try an upgraded supply in the future. I have no way of knowing how the REGEN would compare with your iUSB and iPurifier since I never tried them, sorry that I can't be of more help in that regard.
 
Jun 25, 2015 at 10:55 AM Post #99 of 220
I believe that there have been some other users that have had the iProducts similar to you that have reported their results in the various discussion threads on CA. Some creative searching there might provide you with some input to go on. You could also try phoning UpTone Audio to ask their opinion given your current setup. They are very busy but if you can get a hold of them, when I spoke with them I found them to be very honest and helpful. Good luck and please let us know what you find!
 
Jun 25, 2015 at 5:11 PM Post #101 of 220
  I am using the power supply that is provided with the REGEN for now, but may try an upgraded supply in the future. I have no way of knowing how the REGEN would compare with your iUSB and iPurifier since I never tried them, sorry that I can't be of more help in that regard.

Thanks for the information.
 
  I believe that there have been some other users that have had the iProducts similar to you that have reported their results in the various discussion threads on CA. Some creative searching there might provide you with some input to go on. You could also try phoning UpTone Audio to ask their opinion given your current setup. They are very busy but if you can get a hold of them, when I spoke with them I found them to be very honest and helpful. Good luck and please let us know what you find!

I will try to find some more information at CA
 
I have the Regen coming sometime in July. I also have the iPurifier and wondering if they can run together in the same chain.

 
I think I am going to order one REGEN to make the comparison.
 
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Jun 29, 2015 at 6:18 AM Post #104 of 220
properman if the yggy was not good as the totaldac there is no way that Bricasti M1 can get any better than yggy becuase yggy is far superior than Bricasti M1. you can see the comprasion of purrin here.
 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/693798/thoughts-on-a-bunch-of-dacs-and-why-delta-sigma-kinda-sucks-just-to-get-you-to-think-about-stuff
 
Jun 29, 2015 at 6:41 AM Post #105 of 220
  properman if the yggy was not good as the totaldac there is no way that Bricasti M1 can get any better than yggy becuase yggy is far superior than Bricasti M1. you can see the comprasion of purrin here.
 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/693798/thoughts-on-a-bunch-of-dacs-and-why-delta-sigma-kinda-sucks-just-to-get-you-to-think-about-stuff

 
Don't drink the Kool Aid, please hear for your self instead of regurgitating what someone else said.  From the brief (3 different sessions) time I've had with the M1 I can tell you it just might be the best DAC up to the 10K mark. 
 
The Yggdrasil is a good DAC no doubt.  Just don't take what everybody tells you as fact.  Hear it for your self and you make the call..
 

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