Beyerdynamic T1 3rd Gen out now

Feb 4, 2025 at 4:56 PM Post #1,906 of 1,940
The only problem I've had with this headphone is the headband pleather starts to flake and split after a couple of years. Leather may absorb body oils and discolour (see Focal Stellia), but at least it doesn't fall to pieces as easily.
The build quality, apart from this, is excellent. As is the sound.
 
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Feb 5, 2025 at 1:56 AM Post #1,908 of 1,940
I have the Gen1 and they're one of my favorite headphones (I actually kinda love the hot uppers for what I use them for and I've kinda grown to actually appreciate the non-removable cable) but I get why the Gen3 might be more pleasing to listen to. I think a lot of people (outside of Mr Science as you refer to him as lol...he's his own thing) couldn't separate listening to the Gen3 headphones on their own and only listened to them in comparison to the gen1 and gen2 version. The reality, even if a new headphone is an "upgrade" or an "updated" version of an older headphone, at the end of the day....they are all individual headphones. Similar to how the HD650/6xx got labeled as "veiled" only in comparison to the 600, the same thing kinda happened with the gen3
 
Feb 5, 2025 at 8:10 AM Post #1,909 of 1,940
The only problem I've had with this headphone is the headband pleather starts to flake and split after a couple of years. Leather may absorb body oils and discolour (see Focal Stellia), but at least it doesn't fall to pieces as easily.
The build quality, apart from this, is excellent. As is the sound.

I've recently replaced the headband of my gen2 and it was easy to do. The replacement headband very expensive but I find it was worth it. The build quality of my gen2 is great, it ages very well. No issues at all and I handle it like regular gear without super special care.
 
Feb 11, 2025 at 12:00 AM Post #1,910 of 1,940
The only problem I've had with this headphone is the headband pleather starts to flake and split after a couple of years. Leather may absorb body oils and discolour (see Focal Stellia), but at least it doesn't fall to pieces as easily.
The build quality, apart from this, is excellent. As is the sound.

I have this exact same problem with mine, and it is infuriating. I have some good midfi stuff that has held up so much better.
My Fidelio X3 have more hours on them and they still look nearly new....I mean, 'the stamping of the lettering in the leather is not quite as distinct' , new.
And don't get me started on the custom leather headband I had a local shop make for a set of custom Grados I built, it looks better than when I got it.
I spent more on the T1 than anything else, including amps, by a long measure. They sound great but that flaking headband is ridiculous.
 
Feb 11, 2025 at 7:25 AM Post #1,911 of 1,940
The only problem I've had with this headphone is the headband pleather starts to flake and split after a couple of years. Leather may absorb body oils and discolour (see Focal Stellia), but at least it doesn't fall to pieces as easily.
The build quality, apart from this, is excellent. As is the sound.
It's such a rubbish headband material. MDR Z1R are similar on the underneath of the headband. Last year I replaced a T1.2 headband (the outer) with the outer from a DT1990.

https://global.beyerdynamic.com/p/kopfpolster-dt-1770
 
Mar 20, 2025 at 8:27 PM Post #1,912 of 1,940
Purchased a pair of these today on amazon with a 30 day return policy. First impression is far from what I read about them. They reminded me of utopias with its raised upper mids which create this tunnel effect. Bass is nowhere near of what people write about it. It is on the level of 812 and a little more. They sound ok. Not great and not bad and not worth 1500$ that i paid. I drove them with moon 230had
 
Mar 21, 2025 at 3:55 AM Post #1,913 of 1,940
Purchased a pair of these today on amazon with a 30 day return policy. First impression is far from what I read about them. They reminded me of utopias with its raised upper mids which create this tunnel effect. Bass is nowhere near of what people write about it. It is on the level of 812 and a little more. They sound ok. Not great and not bad and not worth 1500$ that i paid. I drove them with moon 230ha
Try to listen to a Gen2
 
Apr 27, 2025 at 4:52 PM Post #1,915 of 1,940
Hey everyone! Time for a long-term use update. For three years, I paired my Beyerdynamic T1.3 with a SoundBlasterX G6. Back then, my priorities were gaming and casual music listening. I wanted something portable and affordable, and I blindly bought into the "low impedance means easy to drive" myth.

Recently though, I decided to move beyond the G6 for something more technically competent (while still budget-friendly), both for my T1 and my older headphones. Something just felt... off about my old setup.

Enter the SMSL RAW-MDA1. To my complete surprise, the improvement was far greater than I'd ever expected (or even wanted :sweat_smile:).

The T1's core signature remained intact - that warm, smooth yet spacious and detailed character I love. But the transformation was undeniable:
  • The bass became far more present yet perfectly controlled - powerful but never bleeding
  • Vocals, string instruments, even in-game footsteps sounds gained presence and crispness
  • The imaging improvement shocked me - sounds now float in pure black space, hyper-precise and distortion-free
The result? An incredibly comfortable yet technically impressive listen. All the detail and clarity I loved about the T1, now with added weight, control and - most importantly - pure musical fun.

I'm torn between satisfaction and temptation. Satisfied because I achieved this with relatively modest spending (proving my earlier assumptions wrong). Tempted because... well, now I wonder what even higher-end gear might reveal. But for now, I'll happily stop here!
 
May 14, 2025 at 3:47 AM Post #1,917 of 1,940
Hello, folks!
I never thought i'd come back to head-fi, since finding my sweet spot in the headphone domain but here i am, again, with a few questions that might help me clear some stuff with regards to Beyer's 3rd gen T1.

I first auditioned them (actually, bought them blindly) around 2 years ago and i quickly ended up returning them. While they weren't as peaky as Beyer's other offerings, the mid bass bloat was too much for me to handle. Ear ringing, lack of clarity - everything was (not) there and this was from someone that was coming from a pair of LCD-2. They did have bass but quality wise, that bass was as bad as it can get from a kilobuck pair of headphones.

After living in peace and harmony for ~2 years, enjoying life, i decided i needed another complication in it and i (re)bought the T1s. I've read that Beyer has done some silent revisions to the headband's clamp, the pads, etc. and i kinda wanted a pair of phones for easy listening. I already own the HD800S, HD820, HE1000se, IE900 so i have no clue why i did this, honestly. I got all the musical genres covered, from acoustic / orchestral to the lowest of the EDM pool.

They arrived yesterday and until today, i have been exclusively listening to them, alone. Tried all genres and one of the first things i've noticed is that the ringing that comes with the mid-bass/lower mids bloat is still there but at a much lower intensity. They have the kick (mid bass, that is) but the slam is... absent? I mean i thought it had slam until i tried a quick A/B with the HD820, today. Now the Sennheisers can slam and there's no joking about it. I was flabbergasted! What happened to the T1s? Did Beyerdynamic make any changes to them? The kick's still there but there's no deep slam. I'm not expecting planar deepness, i know the differences but they used to sound...different, from a bass perspective?

They are easy listening, i agree with that. I can "tolerate" them at very high levels on either the WA6 or the Violectric V202 with very little fatigue. They are a pleasant audition, especially for trance music (which is notoriously a badly mastered genre) but whenever i swap to the HD820, it feels like there's some deep rumble that comes back into music. Yes, they are much more forgiving than the Sennheisers but the beach is narrow (only a few, very old, vinyl ripped tunes are impossible to listen to, on the HD820).

My entire chain is more on the warm-neutral side (D400ex DAC) but i have no complaints regarding the mids and highs (well, i do but those are trade-offs that are to be expected, i guess, with the T1's current tuning). Furthermore, the lower notes should be more emphasized, shouldn't they? I mean there is a slight difference with more presence in the low end, on the WA6 but even so, i expected more? Basically, i wanted a pair of headphones that can give me the lowest of ends possible without bloating all the neighboring frequencies. I care not for highs and mids since i have cans that satisfy the genres that float around them but even so, i feel like i'm gonna repeat the experience from 2 years ago and return them, again. Which is NOT what i want! They are comfortable, they sit on my head nicely and they are pleasant, warm and very light. Not that the other headphones aren't but again, i really want to like them enough to keep them.

To not be misunderstood - they DO have bass. Slam, punch, rumble, etc. but i thought they're the LCD-2 of the dynamic realm? I owned the LCD-2s and from what i can remember, they used to hit (obviously) much deeper with a much more powerful slam.

Am i missing something, here? There's no ****ery going on with the chain, there are no mods (i bought them new) applied, the audio files are all of the highest quality possible (except those vinyl rips lol). I like listening to them but whenever i pick up the HD820, i feel like i'm being pranked and someone's keeping the sub-bass away from me, with the T1s.

Edit: grammar, wording
 
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May 14, 2025 at 4:27 AM Post #1,918 of 1,940
What happened to the T1s? Did Beyerdynamic make any changes to them?
they changed alright. Sold my T1.3 and kept my T1.2 i think Beyer wanted to appeal to the masses, rather than the audiophile set. something had to give. It was not a night and day difference, but i was enjoying the sound out of the T1.2 a lot more.. in all genres.
 
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May 14, 2025 at 4:30 AM Post #1,919 of 1,940
they changed alright. Sold my T1.3 and kept my T1.2 i think Beyer wanted to appeal to the masses, rather than the audiophile set. something had to give.
I have no issues with their general tuning but when i asked what changed, i was referring to the bass spectrum, alone. First time i had them, they sounded like they had much more bass, especially sub bass! I still like them and i am now fighting to find reasons to keep them. One of them is the fact that they are a very easy listening (which is something i cannot say about the HD800S, 820 or the HEkse - not with all genres).
 
May 14, 2025 at 4:38 AM Post #1,920 of 1,940
One of them is the fact that they are a very easy listening (which is something i cannot say about the HD800S, 820 or the HEkse - not with all genres).
Agree here, both the T1.2 and .3 are very easy listening, extremely non fatiguing and super comfortable.
 

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