Beyerdynamic T1 3rd Gen out now

[Arniesb]

T1.3 is cool but price is way too high. It's probably release price and it will drop a lot. This is more than twice the price of Amiron Home. You can almost buy 1x Ananda and 1x Sundara which is ridiculous. At that price point i would start to consider Focal Clear which is ultimate dynamic driver headphone. OR i can buy Ananda, Sundara, Amiron, 1990 and save a lot. Creator package LCD X is another beast as well or nicely tuned LCD GX.

So far T1.3 looking like a fans only headphone to me. T1.2 was $700 on amazon.com. That's significant price bump.

WOW. How you even rate Clear higher when you dont even heard new T1? Delusional much?

 

[Omnax1]

The other problem with the absorber is frequencies around the peak are also affected, which means treble extension suffers at the expense of trying to tame the peak. It's just physics. This absorber would probably be a great solution for slightly uneven or tilted-up treble response, but it's the wrong tool for a large spike.


@Beagle just knows their preferences. I have heard this headphone, and it isn't for me either.

Yes, you heard them and do not like them. I am perfectly fine with that. There will never be headphone which is liked by everyone and there is so many genres of music which sounds better with different frequency tuning.

I just wanted to point out a fact that judging something without experiencing it yourself is silly.

 

[Omnax1]

Honestly Beyer has a sound philosophy and tuning that people either seem to love or hate. I also really enjoy the T1.3, like many Beyer’s I’ve had its a headphone that takes time to truly appreciate. A lot of headphones with what is considered a better tuning I grow to dislike with extended listening/ownership despite often liking them initially. I know my own preferences in sound just as others know their own preferences.

This is interesting as I was thinking exactly same myself. Very often I like headphone initially but overtime it leaves me wanting more or I keep thinking something is missing. With T.3 I knew from the begining that sound signature is not balanced and it was very difficult for me to not rush my judgement about it. I now put them on and love them for what they are. They are always exciting, they make you clap & tap they just want to have fun and make sure you have fun too. Is T.3 natural or true to the recording? Not really, but then...what is more important accuracy or enjoyment? Be your own judge.

 

[Beagle]

I never had fatigue with the T1.2, T1.3, or the Amiron Home, in fact they’re the least painful and fatiguing headphones I’ve owned. Whereas I’ve bought and sold the HD 600, HD 650, and HD 660 S numerous times due to fatigue despite so many saying they are basically the least fatiguing headphones out there. Not everyone has fatigue issues with the Beyers and it’s not like I can’t hear the peaks in the Beyers and not everyone dislikes it.

True. I should not have said "everyone" in the sense that everyone dislikes Beyers. I should have used "many people". I used 'everybody' generically to define a common complaint in any given headphone that never seems to get properly addressed in a new version. Some can live with certain treble aberrations (or deviations from 'flat') some cannot. But I think the majority of people could adjust easily to a top end free of peaks and having a fairly smooth response. For a lot of listeners, some roughness in the upper mid and treble adds life, energy and dynamics...smooth can be bland. For me, I don't think there should be any more or less treble or bass than what is required to properly portray the natural sounds of real instruments and voices, assuming they were recorded with that in mind.

 

[Terriero]

Luckily, on Monday I ordered one of the last units of T1 v3 that arrived to Thomman yesterday on Thursday (in Canary islands is now 1 am of Friday). They sent me one of the few units they received from Beyer and now look at this:

https://www.thomann.de/es/beyerdynamic_t1_3nd_generation.htm

Next units of T1 v3 on 3-4 weeks.

I will post my impressions when I receive mine. I hope at the beginning of next week

 

[kman1211]

This is interesting as I was thinking exactly same myself. Very often I like headphone initially but overtime it leaves me wanting more or I keep thinking something is missing. With T.3 I knew from the begining that sound signature is not balanced and it was very difficult for me to not rush my judgement about it. I now put them on and love them for what they are. They are always exciting, they make you clap & tap they just want to have fun and make sure you have fun too. Is T.3 natural or true to the recording? Not really, but then...what is more important accuracy or enjoyment? Be your own judge.

I don't know why but Beyers are often some reason oddly satisfying in the long run to me despite never really being truly balanced, it's hard to explain but there is a distinct rightness to their underlying sound that's not related to the FR response and I've heard this to varying degrees on all German made Beyers including the ancient DT 48/480. Makes me think they have some esoteric knowledge in driver design. Honestly it's interesting how controversial Beyer is, there is so much love and hate for the brand.

Though I think a lot of people want a truly balanced sounding Beyer because they have potential and are often felt let down because Beyer does their own thing with tuning. Though I do hope next time Beyer releases a flagship it uses a new driver technology.

 

[albertmuc]

I hope your order goes better than mine...I ordered 7 days ago and paid, still no response or tracking #. Oh well, I guess it will get here some day...

The T1.3 is in the mail, as Beyerdynamic just confirmed via email

 

[bellbrass]

The T1.3 is in the mail, as Beyerdynamic just confirmed via email

Cool! I have no idea about mine.

 

[IgeNeLL]

Can anyone help to post the comparison between T1.2, T1.3 and T90? I own T1.2 and T90, I like T1.2 very much but at the same time like the no boundary and hard impact feeling of T90, T1.2 sometime feel boxy compared to T90.

If you replace T1.2 pad with T90's pad there is interesting.
As my impression, T90 might be the one that inherits most Beyer spirit other than T1.1 one( which still aggressive but added warmth)
After changing pad around all the Beyer's product line, T90 sound signature is influenced by its pad.

 

[kman1211]

Cool! I have no idea about mine.

No luck with customer service?

 

[Jay Smith]

If you replace T1.2 pad with T90's pad there is interesting.
As my impression, T90 might be the one that inherits most Beyer spirit other than T1.1 one( which still aggressive but added warmth)
After changing pad around all the Beyer's product line, T90 sound signature is influenced by its pad.

I did replace pads by Dekoni Audio Elite Velour for T90, it does help to smooth the peak and add warmth and make it closer to T1.2, but T1.2 is still better on complex music presentation, T1.2 presentation is layer by layer with ease and make it relax listening. T90 is not upto that distingush prersentation as T1.2, rather it has excitment impact and good for rock.

 

[SSL443]

So would you say that the Clear is the superior headphone compared to the T1.3? I have a Clear currently ... wondering if the T1.3 is worth considering. I love the Clear, I just wish it had a better soundstage.

Saw someone had mentioned the Clear in this thread, so since I just got in the Clear to try I figured I'd answer this question.

The Clear and the T1.3 have a totally different sound, which is the first thing you should understand. I'd consider the Clear to be fairly "neutral" and balanced. The T1, both the 2nd and 3rd gen, are highly, highly colored. Think of a modified "M" shaped frequency response, with a punchy upper base, warm (bloated) mids, laid-back upper mids, elevated mid-treble, and rolled-off top end (moreso in the case of the gen 3).

Long story short, I don't think the T1.3 is the headphone you're looking for, if all you want is better soundstage. I wouldn't even say the T1 has categorically better soundstage; maybe better depth, but not a massive difference overall. My hot take, according to my preferences: the Clear is the better headphone. Which makes sense, because MSRP is 50% higher.

 

[yeboyi]

Saw someone had mentioned the Clear in this thread, so since I just got in the Clear to try I figured I'd answer this question.

The Clear and the T1.3 have a totally different sound, which is the first thing you should understand. I'd consider the Clear to be fairly "neutral" and balanced. The T1, both the 2nd and 3rd gen, are highly, highly colored. Think of a modified "M" shaped frequency response, with a punchy upper base, warm (bloated) mids, laid-back upper mids, elevated mid-treble, and rolled-off top end (moreso in the case of the gen 3).

Long story short, I don't think the T1.3 is the headphone you're looking for, if all you want is better soundstage. I wouldn't even say the T1 has categorically better soundstage; maybe better depth, but not a massive difference overall. My hot take, according to my preferences: the Clear is the better headphone. Which makes sense, because MSRP is 50% higher.

T1.3 sound started to look like Audeze LCD sound except punchy upper bass. Audeze bass should be neutral and deep.

 

[SSL443]

T1.3 sound started to look like Audeze LCD sound except punchy upper bass. Audeze bass should be neutral and deep.

Haven't heard an LCD, but based on how Beyer is achieving their tuning (with pads boosting the mids and below), I would expect similarity to be limited. Plus differences in driver type.

 

[power]

Has there been a change of management ?? Beyerdynamic the original inventer of the HEADPHONE !!!. Eugen would be rolling in his grave. Even the fonts are rounded and soft on the new website. LIFEstyle virus is not good for a professional HiFI company. The T1 original is the best. the King. As is the Original Hd800. Because they are in poll position with stax. Then lcd 2 arrives - and we get cheap soft revisions catering to the market because. Even though audeze strives for more detail with ever more massless drivers!! Perhaps it would be better If the young blonde lady was an engineer and not a useless artist because the side of a building has nothing to do with sound engineering.