Beyerdynamic DT990s (2005) rule !

Nov 9, 2006 at 11:35 PM Thread Starter Post #1 of 44

mariowar

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I week ago I decided to pick a new pair of cans so I ordered the AKgs 501s and the Beyers Dt990. I got the Hd650s (Cardas) from Thaddy.

Source: Nad C542 cd player
Amp : Emmeline Xp7 with Power Supply
Interconnects : Monster Cable M850i

Music:

Jane Monheit
Tool
Vital tech tones
Madeleine Peyroux
Peter Cincotti
Manowar
After Crying
Bose Sampler cd

I never imagined the DT990s would sound like this, airy, dynamic, punchy detailed. Well, I was wrong, these cans are by far the best I've tried. In the past some claims pointed out how the recessed mids was one of the drawbacks of this particular model, but let me tell you something, the new Dt990s deliver great mids response, not veiled at all.

I always found the Hd600s and the HD580 too veiled in the high end, therefore, I got the HD590s which are excellent cans which provide you better comfort, wonderful soundstage and a clearer treble response due to the Equinox cable. Now comparing the Dt990s to the HD590s I have to say that I hear details in the high end that I never knew were in the recordings, the bass goes deeper and tighter (controlled) and the mids flow naturally forming a sonic landscape. Some claim that the Dt990s sound like having an old LOUDNESS engaged and that might scare some who are looking to have the flattest and most accurate set up. In my humble opinion, this is just an illusion, you either end up having a flat source with a colored amp or visceversa, along with a pair of colored or flat headphones. Obviously the recordings play an important role her because of the dynamics, unfortunately, due to compression effects.......the dynamic recordings are scarse, unless you find an audiophile label. Think about this, a flat source, a flat amp and a flat pair of headphones, along with a average quality recording?? Does this sound attractive to you?
We, the headfiers tend to point to headphones like Grados as an inaccurate pair of headphones because their response is colored......On the other hand we rave about the discolored Hd600 and Hd580s....... And when I refer to them as discolored and referring to the veiled high end they provide to make them sound "natural".

According to the Fletcher-Munson Equal Loudness Contour Curves you need to considerably tip up the bass and the treble to get the audio to sound flat at lower volumes. Well, with the Dt990s you can listen at lower volumes without sacrifying bass or highs, which is wonderful. Some others classify them as too bright, well, they are not brighter than Grados, plus they are very balanced. I remember the old days bleeding my ears trying to get a decent amount of bass out of my Grados Sr325s......

The bottomline is, if you want to enjoy your music ( not meaning that crappy recordings will sound better......) and you want to be engaged into music as I am now, well after all this must be the main purpose out of this headphone madness........ at least give them a try, you will be pleasantly surprised.

The Hd650s compared to the Dt990s sound way darker and bassier in the mid and high bass section of the spectrum, both go as deep as no other can gets even close. To my ears the best bass I've heard is through the Dt990s.
The mids on the Senns have more presence, but again, doing a/b comparisons the mids on the 990s sound naturally good and not recessed.
The high end of the Dt990s is as detailed and refined as the top Grados, you will hear every nuance in the treble region. The treble in the Hd650s is virtually non existant to my ears....
The Akgs are very light on the bass region and that's unfortunate because the high end, mids and soundstage are very good in these cans.

Compared to the Hd590s, the Dt990s are way better in terms of clarity, tonality, details, bass (deeper and tighter) and the comfort out of 10 is 9.

Additionally I would like to mention that I tried the Beyers DT880s old edition a while ago and I did not like them, their mid bass response was poor.

I listened to some classical music with these headphones and I was mesmerized!!! the Dynamics were unbeliavable. Their wide soundstage and 3D were fenomenal.
Jazz was oustanding, the clarinet, cymbals, bass and female vocals were so real to be true.
Rock sounded punchy and articulated. I never cared about TOOL (HDCD) until I listen thier last album with this heaphones, it has to be heard to be believed.

The Emmeline Xp7 (AD797) drives these cans wonderfully, as I said before.

Right now I am sampling my entire collection through these cans and that is something........
 
Nov 10, 2006 at 5:11 AM Post #3 of 44
Nice review... though a little hard on the eyes.
 
Nov 10, 2006 at 5:15 AM Post #4 of 44
Although I hadn't yet appraised my 990s with the classical genres yet, my thinking there was always to reach either for the 501s or 701s, I must now try it.
However, well recorded Greatful Dead is spectacular with these 990s rendering Phils hyper low bass lines and Micky & Bills drums in awesome realism...
 
Nov 10, 2006 at 5:47 AM Post #5 of 44
Esidarap, I hope that now is not hard on the eyes anymore. However, if you meant spelling issues.......well, Spanish is my first language.......

Hi finthen, I agree with you, obviously the overall sound of the 990s is awesome but I never ever heard bass lines and drums sounding like this.
I just listened Govt Mule's Deja Voodoo and WOW, the sound is breathtaking.
 
Nov 10, 2006 at 5:51 AM Post #6 of 44
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Originally Posted by mariowar
Esidarap, I hope that now is not hard on the eyes anymore. However, if you meant spelling issues.......well, Spanish is my first language.......


That's much better! I hadn't even noticed spelling errors.. I don't mind that kind of thing. It was that whole wall of text effect that was a bit of a pain.
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Nov 10, 2006 at 5:57 AM Post #7 of 44
Thanks for the great comparisons to the Sennheiser cans as it gives me a good reference point. I also found the HD650 too dark and thick. It seems the DT990 may be something I like. Too bad I missed out on that ridiculous price from B&H.
 
Nov 10, 2006 at 6:03 AM Post #8 of 44
Socrates63, even at US$264 is a very good price compared to what Headroom etc.... are asking for them. Additionally, they are still handmade in Germany.
Give them a try, you won't regret it.
 
Nov 10, 2006 at 8:16 AM Post #9 of 44
these are great cans... loving my pair ever since i bought them about 3 weeks ago. use them mainly for metal on the rig in my sig.

comparing it to the HD650 on the same rig. i have to say the mids of the HD650 are not as recessed as the 990. but then...thats about it...everything else fees as if its drowned out. and they sounds so....laid back. at least with the 990 the not-so recessed mids still gives it a good balance betwwen the highs and mids and bass.

ive also started hearing things in songs that ive never heard before. the good AND (sadly) the bad. bad mp3 compression...bad mastering.. hehehehehhe

my only wish with these cans is that i want the pads to be bigger and deeper.. so they can sit AROUND my ears better (mebbe i have big ears??). in terms of comfort...yes theyre friggin comfortable. but my Philips HP250 are more comfortabl pads wise
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Nov 10, 2006 at 9:00 AM Post #10 of 44
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Originally Posted by mADmAN
my only wish with these cans is that i want the pads to be bigger and deeper.. so they can sit AROUND my ears better (mebbe i have big ears??)


You must *definitely* have huge ears!
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Nov 10, 2006 at 9:04 AM Post #11 of 44
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Originally Posted by Zoide
You must *definitely* have huge ears!
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LOL mebbe i do :P

anyway...it aint THAT bad... the pads just touch my ears and the depth doesnt go in enough...that one just touches my ears too...

the HP250 cans were just perfect for my ears... and the diff in size between them aint that much.
 
Nov 11, 2006 at 4:06 AM Post #12 of 44
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Originally Posted by mADmAN
these are great cans... loving my pair ever since i bought them about 3 weeks ago. use them mainly for metal on the rig in my sig.

comparing it to the HD650 on the same rig. i have to say the mids of the HD650 are not as recessed as the 990. but then...thats about it...everything else fees as if its drowned out. and they sounds so....laid back. at least with the 990 the not-so recessed mids still gives it a good balance betwwen the highs and mids and bass.

ive also started hearing things in songs that ive never heard before. the good AND (sadly) the bad. bad mp3 compression...bad mastering.. hehehehehhe

my only wish with these cans is that i want the pads to be bigger and deeper.. so they can sit AROUND my ears better (mebbe i have big ears??). in terms of comfort...yes theyre friggin comfortable. but my Philips HP250 are more comfortabl pads wise
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Wow, no kidding, your ears must be quite large, as the DT990's have a pretty darned expansive interior compared to most other cans. I agree that the HD650 has a slightly better midrange, but the veil leaves them no chance against the DT990's in my book. Then factor in comfort and looks, and say sayonara Sennheiser
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Nov 11, 2006 at 4:48 AM Post #13 of 44
Yes, I absolutely agree that DT990(2005) ROCKS!!!
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I just want to try out the 600 ohm version....I heard they are significantly better than the regular 250 ohm version...
 
Nov 11, 2006 at 5:20 AM Post #14 of 44
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Originally Posted by nichifanlema
I just want to try out the 600 ohm version....I heard they are significantly better than the regular 250 ohm version...



Well this is what some people thought about the very old 600ohm DT990 versus the previous edition 250ohm DT990. I've yet to read the results of any direct comparison of the current 2005 edition 600ohm and 250ohm models. If you have, then we demand a link!
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Nov 11, 2006 at 6:04 AM Post #15 of 44
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Originally Posted by Iron_Dreamer
Well this is what some people thought about the very old 600ohm DT990 versus the previous edition 250ohm DT990. I've yet to read the results of any direct comparison of the current 2005 edition 600ohm and 250ohm models. If you have, then we demand a link!
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Hey, I think I'll make a separate thread about this....
 

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