Beyerdynamic DT 231/Sens' HD457 or Sens' PX200??
Jan 19, 2003 at 10:54 PM Thread Starter Post #1 of 13

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I think I have finally narrowed it down to the above 3 phones..oops..and the Sens MX500.

I just can't afford Etymotics..too expesnive at 300 bucks.

Of the above listed including the Sens MX500..

I will be using these with my Nomad Zen mp3 player btw..working out..casual listening..airplane tripe twice a year..and of course bicycling too.

What is everyone's opinion of these cans??
 
Jan 22, 2003 at 10:54 PM Post #2 of 13
I highly recommend the DT231

for their retail price in the US of ~$90, theyre not the best bang for the buck. however, they are great headphones, esp for the low price i got them for ($35 used).

i use them daily at work, both out of my horrid computer soundcard, as well as a Sony D-303 discman and a Meta42 ("maxed out").

over the crappy sony headphones i was using before the Beyers, the 231s provided great detail, lush mids, and decent bass. My Philips 890s (my other work phones) blow them away in terms of bass, and maybe soundstage, but i prefer the Beyers.

Ill try to give the 231s a listen, and post more impressions if i can. however i give them high recommendations for great sounding, sturdy, lower end quality headphones.
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EDIT:
somehow i missed the part about you working out with these...i think that the ST231s are probably not well suited for active use. theyll probably not stay on your head if your jogging or moving around a lot. biking is probably fine, as is basic lifting. but be aware of the fact that, for me at least, these arent a tight fit, more on the loose, comfortable side
 
Jan 22, 2003 at 11:24 PM Post #3 of 13
Did you consider the PX-100? I have got the PX-100 and my brother has got the PX-200's and we agreed that the PX-100 were overall better sounding and especially in the bass department. Personally I think the PX-100 are really hard to beat at $50. They offer good sound for the money, are easy to drive, extremely portable (foldable and storable for transport), and go very loud without distorting.
 
Jan 23, 2003 at 3:33 AM Post #4 of 13
I second Ramtha on PX100 sound. However, if you're taking these to the gym or anything that involves head movement, I'd have to discourage the PX100 or 200. My PX100s feel like they are ready to fall right off my head...at all times. They do not have a tight fit at all.
 
Jan 23, 2003 at 3:40 AM Post #5 of 13
I have to disagree with DLP on this. I use both the 100's and 200's at the gym, and I always have a good fit and never worry about them falling off.
Of course this all has to do with the person wearing, but I don't have a large head necessarily.
 
Jan 23, 2003 at 3:52 AM Post #6 of 13
I tried the 457's and did not like them. Muddy, bass-bloated sound, headband too tight, uncomfortable pads.
 
Jan 23, 2003 at 1:36 PM Post #7 of 13
For a cheap sealed headphone (unlike the PX100's) the PX200's are pretty damn fine. I don't know about the other phones but for gym use the PX200 will give you good sound and you won't distrub other people. I believe the PX200 are better than the Senn 500 but the senn 500 are a good phone and will also suit gym use well.

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Jan 23, 2003 at 11:08 PM Post #8 of 13
Hm, maybe I do have a big head, I don't know. All I know is that with my PX100s, the pads on the inside of the band keep it elevated, and with little clamping pressure, it takes little more than a nod of the head to have them shifting slightly.
 
Jan 23, 2003 at 11:10 PM Post #9 of 13
Cheap + sealed = Audio Technica ATH-M30. They sound better than the Senns. Don't know how they compare to the others.

Edit: I mean the 457s. Haven't heard the PX200s.
 
Jan 24, 2003 at 1:41 AM Post #10 of 13
Just get the px200s and be done with it.
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Another portable can getting lots of love ATM is the Sony EGGO d66sl. My archrival in portable cans, Lou, would certainly recommend these. I haven't heard them though, but you can search and see what people have to say.
 
Jan 24, 2003 at 3:50 AM Post #11 of 13
For me the PX-100's are comfortable and fit securely, although I don't go to the gym with them or do headshaking or something alike.
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The PX-100's are not sealed, which means they leak out a lot, though for some strange reason I've never had a problem with surround noise at anything above low volumes with them. I guess these just go loud enough to drown almost anything that could leak in from outside anyway.
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Jan 25, 2003 at 10:42 AM Post #12 of 13
I don't know if the PX100s suffer the same fate, but the PX200s that I have are incredibly fussy about placement...

Get it right, and they really aren't that bad, with a nice treble... but get it wrong, and the bass gets overloaded, and the treble disappears...
 
Jan 25, 2003 at 11:13 AM Post #13 of 13
ramtha: I can't get proper bass out of my PX200 - even when I play around with placement. Do you have better experiences with the PX100?

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