Beyerdynamic DT 1990 PRO // DT 1990 PRO MK II -- Impressions Thread

May 31, 2022 at 2:49 AM Post #4,336 of 5,026
May 31, 2022 at 5:15 AM Post #4,337 of 5,026
Sooooooooo, weird side question!

My headband on my balanced 1990s (thanks, CustomCans!) has officially been run ragged. Now, I couuuld just get a new stock headband and call it a day, but does anyone happen to know if the Dekoni Headband for the 990/770 series fits the 1990?

https://dekoniaudio.com/product/dek...acement-headband-for-beyerdynamic-headphones/

Thank you!
They fit, but are less cushioned. I do not prefer them over the stock 990/770 pro headband (the one with the buttons) but I do prefer them over the dt1990/1770 stock head pad (which I really dislike).
 
Jun 28, 2022 at 3:27 AM Post #4,341 of 5,026
Hi I just got my new dt1990 pro. Try to change the pad but it leaves a mark on the earpad itself (the leather part where it meet the headphone pad slot)

I worried it won't last long since I'm changing it continuously for mixing (analytics) and easy listening (balance).

Can we got original replacement for each pad? How much is it? Already contacted CS but haven't responded yet (well, I contact them 3 hours ago lol I should be patient).

Thanks ^^

Don't worry, the pads can be bought new from the local distributor. The pads area ablout 35 euro...
 
Jun 28, 2022 at 3:36 AM Post #4,342 of 5,026
I have confirmed that I have A and B pads... The only thing I can think of would be, that my B pads are worn from about 150 hours of usage.
When I get a new pair of pads, that I'll post some new measurements, - but what's funny is, that my A and B pads are the same softness.
Most YouTubers talk about that the A pads are softer then the B pads... But mine always were the same softness. It's just the number of holes in the back that are different.

Just for everyone’s info,

I ordered 2 pars of balanced pads, - one from Amazon.de and one from Thomann.de
And guess what, they all measure the same as the ones I got with my pair of DT1990.

So the conclusion must be, at Beye has made a silent revision on their pads.

They do still measure different then the A pads, but the difference is nowhere close to what you’ll find at diyaudioheaven.wordpress.com/ or Crinacle’s measurements.

Here we have the measurements again.

“DT-1990 L” Left side the balanced pads
“DT1990_A-L”Left side with analytical pads
“DT1990_D-L” Left side Dekoni pads

As it's plain to see, Deconi has the most bass, followed by the B pads, and then A pads....


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Jul 27, 2022 at 9:09 PM Post #4,343 of 5,026
Hello! I'm currently running my 1990s directly through my Mac Pro (M1). Was wondering if it's worth it to get an amp/dac? If so, what difference would it bring if I use let's say the Fiio K5 pro? Thanks!
 
Jul 27, 2022 at 9:34 PM Post #4,344 of 5,026
Hello! I'm currently running my 1990s directly through my Mac Pro (M1). Was wondering if it's worth it to get an amp/dac? If so, what difference would it bring if I use let's say the Fiio K5 pro? Thanks!
I do the same. Macs have very competent headphone connections. I'd say it's not really worth buying an external amp unless you want tube coloration or like having a physical volume knob or other features.
 
Jul 28, 2022 at 4:12 PM Post #4,345 of 5,026
I do the same. Macs have very competent headphone connections. I'd say it's not really worth buying an external amp unless you want tube coloration or like having a physical volume knob or other features.
Okey, I don't have the time to write down the math on this right now, but...:

For the DT1990 you need about 0.140 Volt to get to 90db at 1000 hz. Now seeing as 8000 Hz is about 15db louder then 1000 Hz on the DT1990, you will need something like 0.7 Volt to hit the peaks :)

Now.. Listening at 90db is loud, if you try listening louder, - say 100db with peaks at 115db, then we start having problems, as most mobile devices only output 1Volt. 8000hz will be hitting at 115db and that needs almost 2 volts...

Soooo, long story short: unless you listen stupid loud, or you are EQing with a preamp set at -10db, you MacBook will be just fine :)

(EDIT: Math....)
(EDIT: Grammer )
 
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Jul 28, 2022 at 6:48 PM Post #4,346 of 5,026
Okey, I don't have the time to write down the math on this right now, but...:

For the DT1990 you need about 0.140 Volt to get to 90db at 1000 hz. Now seeing as 8000 Hz is about 15db louder then 1000 Hz on the DT1990, you will need something like 0.7 Volt to hit the peaks :)

Now.. Listening at 90db is loud, if you try listening louder, - say 100db with peaks at 115db, the we start having problems, as most mobile devices only output 1Volt. 8000hz will be hitting at 115db and that needs almost 2 volts...

Soooo, long story short: unless you listen stupid loud, or you are EQing with a preamp set at -10db, you MacBook will be just fine :)

(EDIT: Math....)
(EDIT: Grammer )
If I'm not mistaken, Macs do up to 2V and US Lightning dongles do 1V (I think EU ones are 0.5V? Can't remember at the moment). I also happily use my DT 1990 (as well as my HD 650) with my iPhone.

My toddler shrieks at 93 decibels (yes, I measured)... I can't imagine listening to anything at that volume for long.
 
Jul 28, 2022 at 8:16 PM Post #4,347 of 5,026
My toddler shrieks at 93 decibels (yes, I measured)... I can't imagine listening to anything at that volume for long.
93 dB = shriek peak? / shriek average? 😳😖 at 8 KHz (?)…
 
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Jul 29, 2022 at 1:49 AM Post #4,348 of 5,026
93 dB = shriek peak? / shriek average? 😳😖 at 8 KHz (?)…
What?!?! Kinda funny when people forget to read up on headphone sensitivity.

But why! ...That's why all manufacturers tall os what the sensitivity is in dB/V right? To make it easy to compare headphones right??? ( Hope you can feel the sarcasm)

Oh.. and everyone knows ohms law by heart right? And all manufacturers of amp/DACs always tall us how much power their amp has with the same load right??????


FYI:
The DT1990 is 102 dBSPL (1mW/500Hz)...
That calculates to a freaking 108dB at 1 Volt at 500Hz!!!

Math is fun right kids?

 
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Jul 29, 2022 at 2:58 AM Post #4,349 of 5,026
What?!?! Kinda funny when people forget to read up on headphone sensitivity.

But why! ...That's why all manufacturers tall os what the sensitivity is in dB/V right? To make it easy to compare headphones right??? ( Hope you can feel the sarcasm)

Oh.. and everyone knows ohms law by heart right? And all manufacturers of amp/DACs always tall us how much power their amp has with the same load right??????


FYI:
The DT1990 is 102 dBSPL (1mW/500Hz)...
That calculates to a freaking 108dB at 1 Volt at 500Hz!!!

Math is fun right kids?

Most people listening to headphones don't even know what a dB is though.

Best to say 108 dB is dangerous to your future hearing if listening at that volume for more than 30 minutes per day.
 
Jul 29, 2022 at 1:24 PM Post #4,350 of 5,026
Most people listening to headphones don't even know what a dB is though.

Best to say 108 dB is dangerous to your future hearing if listening at that volume for more than 30 minutes per day.
According to my math, exposure to 108dB shouldn't exceed 2 minutes and 22 seconds before hearing damage.
85dB can cause hearing damage after 8 hours of exposure, and safe exposure time halves with every +3dB (and doubles with every -3dB).

here's my math ('cause everyone loves math!):
t = 480 / (2L - 85/3)
Where
t = maximum noise exposure time (in minutes)
L = noise exposure level

t = 480 / (2108 - 85/3)
t = 2.362min = 2min 22sec
 

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