I always wondered if, say Tom Petty (R.I.P.), sat down and listened to himself on my setup, he would say ... "Hey buddy, that's not how I intended for you to hear that!" ... LOL
Beyerdynamic DT 1990 PRO // DT 1990 PRO MK II -- Impressions Thread
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I always wondered if, say Tom Petty (R.I.P.), sat down and listened to himself on my setup, he would say ... "Hey buddy, that's not how I intended for you to hear that!" ... LOL
Isnt Focal Elear pretty much like this? Anyone here who has heard both?
The Elear s much closer to a HD650 then a DT1990. No Beye "peak". Also the angled drivers make the mids sound the soundstage seem larger.
I have 1990. Why Im asking is that is there any point to update to Elear or is that not an update at all? My taste of music is REAAAALLLY heavy stuff. DT 1990 is excellent on this but might Elear be better?
Well, it will be hard if you like the sound signature of the DT1990. I have listed to almost everything form Meze Empyrean to HD820 when a close friend wanted a upgrade... And I can say, that you will not find a headphone soundwise like the DT1990. There are headphones that are more "flat", with better comfort and so on... But detail wise it will be hard.
The T1 gen 2 was a upgrade yes, with the angled drives where your ears did not touch inside the housing, so if you can find one it's well worth it. (My dad has one, but not for sale
)How about T1 gen 3, cant be worse than gen 2, right? Would it take Dekoni velour pads Im using in 1990?Well, it will be hard if you like the sound signature of the DT1990. I have listed to almost everything form Meze Empyrean to HD820 when a close friend wanted a upgrade... And I can say, that you will not find a headphone soundwise like the DT1990. There are headphones that are more "flat", with better comfort and so on... But detail wise it will be hard.
The T1 gen 2 was a upgrade yes, with the angled drives where your ears did not touch inside the housing, so if you can find one it's well worth it. (My dad has one, but not for sale
The T1 gen3 is an entirety different headphone, and a far departure from what Beyedynamic normally has made. It is meant to be easy to drive and can run of a iPhone, but is has very muddy in the bass, mids are warm, and highs are less peaky...
They tried to make it more "main stream" and failed. Beye has had more or less had the same soundsigniture from 1983... With only the X line and T1/T3 gen3 taking a departure from it. ( Talking about over ear here )
The DT1990 is a TOTL studio headphone.
I say it again TOTL STUDIO HEADPHONE.
It's a workhorse. It's ment to find flaws in recordings.
That is what makes it great, and what also is it's downfall. The hyper detail also require clean recordings. If you have that, then it rocks.
Ps. Before someone says " it's fake detail"... Just remember you can't hear something that's not there on the recording in the first place.
PPS. - I love it for listening to live symphonic heavy metal
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Chodi
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I have the T1.2 and the 1990. I would not call the T1.2 an upgrade from the 1990. The 1990 is far more focused and detailed. The T1.2 is lush sounding and the soundstage is not nearly as precise. I have not tried changing pads on my T1.2 but I might get around to it. I own several pad sets (from various suppliers) for beyer but haven't got around to swapping. In general I think the 1990 is the better headphone. I have tried the t1.3 and returned it quickly. In my opinion they really screwed up on that one. Both the 1990 and the T1.2 benefit from tube amps. Not to say they won't sound good on quality solid state but they really go to another level on good tube amps.
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trickyRoadsDummyTOOL
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Good day everyone!
I am using this headphone since August 2018. I upgraded from AKG 2??II to ATH M50x to Grado RS2e. The latter were just too harsh triggering some sort of tinnitus in my ears, altho they were beautiful. Since then I am using 1990 and they seem to get better and better, without experimenting with any gear apart from headphones. Using a NAD C658, powered by a RNHP and quite good XLR cables. Every one of these three components made them sound better and better. No harshness, not anything that bothers me. Detail, soundstage, imaging fits very well to my needs. After reading through the whole thread the only thing I want to add are the foam disks (thanks tocevisi). Not to forget the analytical pads, the balanced pads just did not suit my hearing, just like chastity and Progressive J have already stated for themselves. Last exercise: I ordered and tested due to the incredible reports the A2C Noire although I read about a lack of microdynamics in this forum. Now a surprising fact: these were just to sibilant! Noticed for example while hearing the track "Der Telefonanruf“ by Kraftwerk on the same gear used for the 1990.
Just my two cents. Wanted to explain that this path can work as I have experienced.
And I thank you all for your reported experience and sometimes revealing discussion, megabigeye, and often entertaining discussion.
I am using this headphone since August 2018. I upgraded from AKG 2??II to ATH M50x to Grado RS2e. The latter were just too harsh triggering some sort of tinnitus in my ears, altho they were beautiful. Since then I am using 1990 and they seem to get better and better, without experimenting with any gear apart from headphones. Using a NAD C658, powered by a RNHP and quite good XLR cables. Every one of these three components made them sound better and better. No harshness, not anything that bothers me. Detail, soundstage, imaging fits very well to my needs. After reading through the whole thread the only thing I want to add are the foam disks (thanks tocevisi). Not to forget the analytical pads, the balanced pads just did not suit my hearing, just like chastity and Progressive J have already stated for themselves. Last exercise: I ordered and tested due to the incredible reports the A2C Noire although I read about a lack of microdynamics in this forum. Now a surprising fact: these were just to sibilant! Noticed for example while hearing the track "Der Telefonanruf“ by Kraftwerk on the same gear used for the 1990.
Just my two cents. Wanted to explain that this path can work as I have experienced.
And I thank you all for your reported experience and sometimes revealing discussion, megabigeye, and often entertaining discussion.
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baunauf
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Basically put a filter after 10KHz, most producers can't hear anymore. Solved.
gazzington
Headphoneus Supremus
These cans with elite velours are awesome. Music and gaming are ace with them
Jonne Haven
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Haha! I actually work hard on the 10kHz frequencies and above in my mixes/masters knowing that it might be a waste of time as you've suggested. LOL!
-J
The DT 150 is also a departure from the traditional Beyer sound. Never found the bass on the T1.3 muddy, but rather heavy and thick yet very articulate and detailed I found most other headphones sound ill-defined in the bass in comparison. I think the bass is the T1.3's forte given you are able to adjust to it's unconventional bass response. I do understand why the T1.3 and T5.3 is disliked by many though. Haven't heard the Pro X line so no idea how I would place it.The T1 gen3 is an entirety different headphone, and a far departure from what Beyedynamic normally has made. It is meant to be easy to drive and can run of a iPhone, but is has very muddy in the bass, mids are warm, and highs are less peaky...
They tried to make it more "main stream" and failed. Beye has had more or less had the same soundsigniture from 1983... With only the X line and T1/T3 gen3 taking a departure from it. ( Talking about over ear here )
The DT1990 is a TOTL studio headphone.
I say it again TOTL STUDIO HEADPHONE.
It's a workhorse. It's ment to find flaws in recordings.
That is what makes it great, and what also is it's downfall. The hyper detail also require clean recordings. If you have that, then it rocks.
Ps. Before someone says " it's fake detail"... Just remember you can't hear something that's not there on the recording in the first place.
PPS. - I love it for listening to live symphonic heavy metal
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Any one who has had a t90 and a dt1190?i’m planning to get the dt1990 soon and was wondering how it compares to the t90. Please share your feedback
DT1990 v.2 from march 2022???
That's right... There must have been a silent revision (for the better I hope).
Been A/B the pads that come with the DT1990, and I could just not hear the bass that was supposed to be in the balanced pads, - so I spent 62 euro on a pair of dekoni elite velour pads, and here we go. All of a sudden we have this bass everyone has measured.
So guess what? I went to my 60+ year old dad, who has some 45 pairs of headphones (not kidding here) and a MiniDSP
And the measurements confirm my subject hearing.
Also, the difference between the A/B pads is almost non existent right now...
I would really love a comment from Beyedynamic on this.
That's right... There must have been a silent revision (for the better I hope).
Been A/B the pads that come with the DT1990, and I could just not hear the bass that was supposed to be in the balanced pads, - so I spent 62 euro on a pair of dekoni elite velour pads, and here we go. All of a sudden we have this bass everyone has measured.
So guess what? I went to my 60+ year old dad, who has some 45 pairs of headphones (not kidding here) and a MiniDSP
And the measurements confirm my subject hearing.
Also, the difference between the A/B pads is almost non existent right now...
I would really love a comment from Beyedynamic on this.
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