Best Smartphone for audiophile Part II (Updated: Jan 2020)
Jun 4, 2021 at 4:14 AM Post #4,071 of 5,166
Cant you like order from aliexpress? If not well thats unfortunate. Maybe you should consider for the dongle dac option instead. The only recent smartphone released in this year with technically good dac is the new rog from asus.
I can't find LG V60 on Aliexpress. Do you have a link?
Are you talking about rog 5? (it is to expensive for my budget)
 
Jun 4, 2021 at 4:36 AM Post #4,073 of 5,166
I can't find LG V60 on Aliexpress. Do you have a link?
Are you talking about rog 5? (it is to expensive for my budget)
Go for Xperia 1ii. I actually like the sound out of Xperia better then V60. It's also just a better phone overall. I have re-purchases Xperia and use it as my main phone replacing Samsung S21U.

V60 ist actually available in Germany from eBay. I tested it again but ended up sending back. I was not happy with it as a phone and it doesn't make sense to have a second phone just for music, I would rather go with specialized DAP.
 
Jun 4, 2021 at 4:37 AM Post #4,074 of 5,166
I can't find LG V60 on Aliexpress. Do you have a link?
Are you talking about rog 5? (it is to expensive for my budget)
Take a phone that you like and get a good dongle or dac/amp like BTR5/ES100 instead.

The benefit is, that you'll never have to worry about the next phone to buy. :wink:
 
Jun 4, 2021 at 8:36 AM Post #4,075 of 5,166
Go for Xperia 1ii. I actually like the sound out of Xperia better then V60. It's also just a better phone overall. I have re-purchases Xperia and use it as my main phone replacing Samsung S21U.

V60 ist actually available in Germany from eBay. I tested it again but ended up sending back. I was not happy with it as a phone and it doesn't make sense to have a second phone just for music, I would rather go with specialized DAP.
I have the Xperia 1 ii.

It's pretty good, a/b with iPhone with bluetooth headphones and I find the iPhone a bit warmer and smoother, the Xperia clearer, louder.

Wired I don't think it's anything special. My PC Asus motherboard outlet gets significantly louder and sounds more engaging. I prefer the Xperia 1 ii to my iPod touch though.

Add a dragonfly Red/Cobalt to any smartphone and it'll blow the socks off the Xperia 1 ii. If someone wants SQ, theyd be much better off just doing that actually, as the dragonfly integrates so easily with the dragon tail its basically an unnoticeable accessory. A crap android phone with a Cobalt >> V60/1ii
 
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Jun 7, 2021 at 3:03 AM Post #4,077 of 5,166
Previous Thread: https://www.head-fi.org/f/threads/best-smartphone-for-audiophile.662095/

Please help rectify my Table if spec is wrong. Any recommendation is welcomed.

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Google Doc for Smartphone Table
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nhMd7oKzwauEanwUndqU5orN8T18JCm3VllomhTWqsc/edit?usp=sharing
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Note: "Recommended" is based on my preference only.
- From 2013-2015, I use UE900 as reference.
- 2016-2017 I use 1964 U12 + Brimar Cable as reference.
- 2018 onward, I use Fitear 335DWSR + custom cable (VK)
Always take this list with a grain of salt.
Remember, you have no need to believe my opinion will be same as yours. :) You always have your own preference and ears to believe in yourself.


Note2: Price Range is just approximate number and might vary in different countries. For some devices, it is based on second hand price because I can't find the whole new one ever.

Inconvenient Truth

The best way to enjoy real and pure music is from Stock music player because it is the only way that software engineer can bypass android’s 48kHz sampling rate limitation and let you enjoy native sampling rate when 44.1KHz is using 22MHz clock and 48kHz or 96kHz are using 24MHz clock with no sampling rate converter. So it is the true sound that company proudly gives to you.

Good News: Neutron is supporting bit-perfect playback for most Hi-Res android device.
For those who own ESS, AKM chip based smartphone and love Neutron music player's simple UI with great Network Playing Functionality.
Please try setting in Audio Hardware Setting in the app by following http://neutronmp.com/forum_nmp/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=4014

It is working really well with my vivo xplay6. It is bit-perfect playback and I really enjoyed it.

:)

Confirmed Devices:
Neutron Hi-Res setting support for vivo xplay6, Letv x900, meizu Pro5, All LG V series, huawei p10 etc.
Neutron Hi-Res setting not support for Lenovo vibe x3

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Neutron setting for exclusive vivo xplay6 users
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/bes...updated-mar-2018.853115/page-86#post-14199788

Smartphone News / Leak
- LG V30 Audio Spec
http://www.lgnewsroom.com/2017/08/f...ening-thunder-lg-v30-delivers-tailored-hi-fi/

- Vivo might launch fingerprint sensor on screen in new model in MWC 2017 at Shanghai
http://www.bgr.in/news/vivo-teases-...ead-of-mwc-shanghai-2017-unveiling-next-week/

Good Posts / Discussions on Last "Best Smartphone for audiophile" Thread

- LG V20 vs Meizu Pro 5 mini review by yfei
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/lg-v20-sound-quality.816024/page-190#post-13698008

- Adapter to activating high gain in vivo xplay6 and aux mode in LG V20 and G6

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Left: 3.5 to 2.5 adapter if your cable is terminated for balanced DAP
Right: use cable extender if you use normal 3.5 single end IEM

How Quad DAC in LG V20 and G6 works
http://www.androidauthority.com/lg-v20-quad-dac-explained-713587/

Find new Smartphone Review on sound quality? Try search in
http://eng.soomal.com/edoc/index101000_0001_00.htm

Vivo will get Oreo update on x9, x20 series and xplay 6 launch in Apr 18
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/5546180828

Ainur SAURON MK I.IV.II mod from XDA
Credit to @lantian
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/bes...updated-sep-2017.853115/page-32#post-13768281
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/bes...updated-sep-2017.853115/page-32#post-13766166

How to use 2 sim + 1 mirco SD card for hybrid slot smartphone.
Credit to @oyabass
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/bes...updated-sep-2017.853115/page-77#post-14115308

If you want to ask for Smartphone recommendation, please follow this format
Price range:
IEM/ Headphone used:
Screen size:
What kind of sound you wanna get: more warm? more detail? bigger soundstage?
What kind of music you mainly listen: Pop? Rock? EDM? Orchestra?
Special request: Need dual camera / higher than snapdragon 820 / No Chinese smartphone etc.
No new updates?
 
Jun 7, 2021 at 11:04 AM Post #4,079 of 5,166
Jun 7, 2021 at 2:52 PM Post #4,080 of 5,166
Anybody has an opinion on the Samsung Galazy S20+?

My LG V10 has died, and i was looking for a replacement. Both of my first options seem difficult to find new (at least here in Italy), namely, the V30+ and the G8X ThinQ. I'm afraid of buying used or refurbished because of burn in or shortened battery life. Some US sellers ship in Italy but i'm afraid of custom fees (got slapped by an efty one when i orderered a Schiit amp from the US a few years ago, not sure i want to go through that again).

The Samsung Galazy S20+ has the advantage of having decent IEMs out of the box, which will save me from having to buy a new pair (since mine broke as well), and i can also bind the phone on my monthly Vodafone bill so i don't have to pay it all upfront. The only question is whether the internal DAC is as good as any of those LG phones. I mean i used to be able to drive my Sennheiser HD600 with my V10 without external amp. I thought that was pretty damn good. Not sure if i can do the same with the Sony.
 
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