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I think the main appeal of certain bands for a lot of hipsters are that they are not popular or are no longer popular. A sort of "I liked it before it was cool" statement, where the obscurity becomes justification for the music.
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In a bizarre way, I think that same attitude is what made
Sea Change Beck's least popular album (I could be wrong, but I think it sold relatively poorly.) His fans love to trawl his material for achingly hip references, and the idea of an album of straightforward songs, passionately sung, is just boring to them. They much prefer his superficial pastiches of hip-hop/rock/folk/electronica/whatever, which are far better suited to limited attention spans.
I, on the other hand, was shocked out of my shoes by that record. I had previously liked "Loser," and very little else among Beck's material. I had no idea he could write, play and sing so movingly. So I guess it's actually pretty encouraging to me that it did well in this poll.
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I'd probably say "hipsters don't like music". A pretty big example is hipsters who are into In the Aeroplane Over the Sea by Neutral milk Hotel (a 1998 album rereleased in 2005 or so). It was never cool, and even the people who listenned to it in 1998 (myself included) have moved on. They love this kind of thing, especially since most of them are 14 and the album has the lyric "semen stains the mountain tops".
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I downloaded that from eMusic not too long ago, and I was underwhelmed. Not a bad record, but not the masterpiece I had been led to expect. Another example is the Zombies final album,
Odyssey and Oracle, which I also recently heard in its entirety for the first time. Sure, "Time of the Season" is a magnificent single, but I find the rest of the album to be annoyingly twee and cute. After two close listens, I just don't understand why I have been hearing for decades that this record is some sort of lost classic. I suspect it's for the reasons you cite: it was out of print for years, and a highly prized trophy for vinyl collectors.
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IMO this sort of thing is just a phase for these people, and they are every bit as impressionable about their "tastes" as most people who get their favourite songs from hits on the radio, they just don't like to admit it.
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Well, the hipster dress code is now as standard as the emo dress code, the hip-hop dress code, and the metal dress code. There are, of course, many people who passionately love hip-hop, emo, or metal for all the right reasons. But there are many more who just want a social group to fit into, and they just choose one, ready-made, off the rack.
The irony of it is that hipsterdom did have a certain edge to it long ago. It wasn't a stance that was likely to get you invited to the cool parties. It was more a collection of misfits who, silly as they may have been, were making it up as they went along. Now, as I said, it's just another cliched stance; anyone who has spent five minutes in Williamsburg recently can attest to that.