[Picard7]

I'm interested in the holo audio Cyan 2 in comparison with other DACs in the price range, specially against something like the Ladder Schumann R2R.

There's a poster from Italy on the Cyan 2 thread who just posted his thoughts on Cyan 2 vs Frerot.

 

[Slackaveli]

Thanks, we all hear differently so it always comes down to personal preference at the end of the day. I bought my XS after reading reviews and have come to love the Hifiman sound so the Arya does seem like the logical upgrade but it's a big step up so I'll find a way of listening to them first this time.

HE1000 Stealth is better bro.

 

[Simon Patten]

HE1000 Stealth is better bro.

Thanks. When I'm closer to upgrading I'll certainly consider it, I gather they're different in their sound signature so it'll be interesting to A-B them.

 

[jinu117]

Thanks. When I'm closer to upgrading I'll certainly consider it, I gather they're different in their sound signature so it'll be interesting to A-B them.

I've tried Arya Organic, HE1000Stealth, HE1000SE... between Arya Organic and He1000Stealth, I felt it was more of side grade as in not better or worse, but different characteristics. HE1000SE to me was bit of improvement over either for detail and staging but not huge one to be honest. At the time my chain might not have been best to push this cans to limit (Aune S9c, Denafrips Ares 12th-1 with Aune S17c). If I were in your shoes, I would probably try to get some demo to see which sound you do like with your source chain. As well as we can't speak for your preference especially on high frequency people complain about in hifiman which I am not too bothered with. I can still hear 12khz when I test my ears but I am not bothered by so called brightness of some Hifiman people complain about...

 

[Slackaveli]

I actually LOVE the Hifiman brightness bc to my ears it isnt "too bright" and is in fact quite lovely and filled with details.

Jinu's synopsis is pretty much spot on.

 

[Erick Muller]

I've tried Arya Organic, HE1000Stealth, HE1000SE... between Arya Organic and He1000Stealth, I felt it was more of side grade as in not better or worse, but different characteristics. HE1000SE to me was bit of improvement over either for detail and staging but not huge one to be honest. At the time my chain might not have been best to push this cans to limit (Aune S9c, Denafrips Ares 12th-1 with Aune S17c). If I were in your shoes, I would probably try to get some demo to see which sound you do like with your source chain. As well as we can't speak for your preference especially on high frequency people complain about in hifiman which I am not too bothered with. I can still hear 12khz when I test my ears but I am not bothered by so called brightness of some Hifiman people complain about...

Just did a 12khz tone test on youtube and apparently I can still hear that loud and clear, don't know if I like that tho.

 

[Slackaveli]

Just did a 12khz tone test on youtube and apparently I can still hear that loud and clear, don't know if I like that tho.

I can make it to 13.5k which as a 49 y/o aint bad I reckon.
But, like you said, it aint exactly a wonderful sound. But better to be able to hear than not.

So, hey, @jinu117 you didnt find the Stealths to be a good synergy with s17?
It seems weird that they wouldnt be just magical with the way everyone describes this amp.

 

[jinu117]

I can make it to 13.5k which as a 49 y/o aint bad I reckon.
But, like you said, it aint exactly a wonderful sound. But better to be able to hear than not.

So, hey, @jinu117 you didnt find the Stealths to be a good synergy with s17?
It seems weird that they wouldnt be just magical with the way everyone describes this amp.

Oh S17 was wonderful improvement over just using S9c with stealth. I think all the 3 Hifiman I tried was great match with S17. HE1000SE and HE1000 Stealth benefited more from it than Arya Organic in my opinion. Arya Organic was just fine in S9c and I wouldn't have spent the extra money in rest of chain if I was going to stick to Arya Organic. Of course, that is very subjective opinion of mine. (I thought Arya Organic sounded better than the other two in S9c... it was on S17 + Ares where it kind of swapped position).

 

[Erick Muller]

I can make it to 13.5k which as a 49 y/o aint bad I reckon.
But, like you said, it aint exactly a wonderful sound. But better to be able to hear than not.

So, hey, @jinu117 you didnt find the Stealths to be a good synergy with s17?
It seems weird that they wouldnt be just magical with the way everyone describes this amp.

Sounds like I'm having tinnitus tbh lol!!!! but yeah it's good that I can still hear that tone perfectly clear and without issues.

 

[Slackaveli]

oh no, tinnitus suuuucks.

 

[Slackaveli]

Oh S17 was wonderful improvement over just using S9c with stealth. I think all the 3 Hifiman I tried was great match with S17. HE1000SE and HE1000 Stealth benefited more from it than Arya Organic in my opinion. Arya Organic was just fine in S9c and I wouldn't have spent the extra money in rest of chain if I was going to stick to Arya Organic. Of course, that is very subjective opinion of mine. (I thought Arya Organic sounded better than the other two in S9c... it was on S17 + Ares where it kind of swapped position).

Thanks!

 

[davveswe]

How do the amp compare to the singxer sa-1 with headphones of 300 ohms, hd6xx line up?

 

[labeelen]

How do the amp compare to the singxer sa-1 with headphones of 300 ohms, hd6xx line up?

They are both great amplifiers.
I found that S17 has more presence, control and punch in the low end and is more forgiving for brighter headphones like some Beyerdynamics models.
S17 betters Sa-1 in driving ‘difficult/demanding’ headphones like HE6se.
… I expect the hd6xx to be a good match for both with the forementioned (subtle) sonic advantages for the S17.

 

[davveswe]

They are both great amplifiers.
I found that S17 has more presence, control and punch in the low end and is more forgiving for brighter headphones like some Beyerdynamics models.
S17 betters Sa-1 in driving ‘difficult/demanding’ headphones like HE6se.
… I expect the hd6xx to be a good match for both with the forementioned (subtle) sonic advantages for the S17.

Then it´s not worth the price tag, to upgrade from singxer sa-1? I am curious to try the amp, and the Fiio K9 AKM, Aune S9c have no gain modes, throw me some off there.
I find the hd600 balanced with singxer sa-1 not having the widest soundstage, sounds clinical, some harsh without EQ. SE mode sounds almost better sometimes.

 

[Minimyna]

I will probably pull the trigger on an S17 Pro. I will buy it from a reputable local shop, its little more expensive but for peace of mind its worth it for me.
Now to the question, anyone using this amp with HD800S with the 3M OG balanced cable? Want to know if there is any issues with noise.

Also they are made in January so should have the new volume-programming?