herbie12389
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For the test:
MBP -> (black cat cable special edition usb) -> gungnir -> 2 sets of interconnects
1.) WireWorld equinox rca
2.) Nordost Blue Heaven LS
-> into a Schiit SYS -> (schitt pyst cable) -> headphone amp -> hd 800
Did you see this part? And did you take note of Roger Russell's resume?
The Big PictureThere is big money to be made in wire, not only speaker wire but all kinds of exotic wire—hookup wire, audio cables, power cables and a wide variety of speaker wire including the new term of “speaker cables.” The term cable implies more robust and heavy duty qualities than wire.
I have learned from one wire company that much of this exotic wire is not manufactured in the USA at all. It comes from places like Taiwan and China. It can be bought in industrial quantities at surprisingly little cost and sold for tremendous profits. Custom runs in large quantities, can be purchased having any number of different features and are not a problem for versatile wire manufacturers. It can even be made with various terminals already installed.
The strategy in selling these products is, in part, to appeal to those who are looking to impress others with something unique and expensive. There is also pride of ownership and the belief that if it costs that much it must be good. It reminds me of the Percy Bysshe Shelley poem Ozymandias but for speaker wire it translates to “Look upon my expensive wires ye mighty and despair.” It will always sell to those who want the latest thing and would spend as much for a Rolex watch as they would for wire. Of course, there are ordinary watches that will tell time accurately they but don’t have that name or that price.
Another part of the strategy is to capitalize on the lack of truth in advertising, particularly the whole truth. Perhaps the two words “truth” and “advertising” are on opposite extremes but half of the truth can be worse than a lie. I don’t think the average consumer is any match to cope with the persuasive sales “hype” of professional salesmen praising a questionable wire science and doubtful benefits.
When confronted with the truth, believers do not want to hear about it. They want to remain in the magical world of fantasy where they think they can hear improvements in their wire, often arrived at by making listening tests without adequate controls or understanding of the problems involved including speaker impedance and amplifier stability. One of the prime tools in creating such a faith for the average consumer is by capitalizing on fear and ignorance as in many other things that aren’t readily apparent. There is fear that the wire currently in use is not good enough. There is ignorance because most people do not have scientific knowledge in this area and lack adequate measuring equipment to prove otherwise.
I even think Blue Jeans cables are overpriced!
I am sure that this has been stated a million times over and I will preface this by saying I am not much of a cable guy. Not much because I would not use winflew to wire up my stereo or headphones.
To a large extent , it is where you find yourself in the hobby. An analogy, something else that relies heavily of sensory interpretation and experience. Wine or single malt whisky. If you take someone who is ignorant of the subtleties or nuances of flavour and present them with a dram of $12 / $60 / $150 / $600 or $1500 flavours from the same district eg Speyside ( we are talking whisky here ) - this would equate to an audio noob being presented with twinflex, monoprice, etc etc to the esoteric world of cables.
For the whisky, it is probably easier to discern the $12 from the $600 but it still requires training your palate , in much the same way it requires tweaking your system to optimize the sound you like. For those who strive for absolute institutionalization, this quest drives them into the depths of insanity ( or at least most people feel this way ) . I have been fortunate in that I managed to get "high end" gear early on in my journey and I can hear things like coupling capacitor changes, and yes, the benefits of wiring. For my own peace of mind I recently lent out my LCD3 with 3 cables, stock and 2 cables made from wire that is deemed "audiophile" and I was able to hear differences between them. The Audeze stock cable is not rubish, in fact it amazes me that people buy a top tier headphone and immediately switch out the cable. The HD800 is probably higher grade than most replacements.
I know I have been rambling on but the message really is that this is your system - when you get to the point that you question or find fault in your system, that is the time to look at the elements of your system, and wiring is not a trivial part of the equation. Don't forget the loaner programs either - Cable Co or a trusting headfier could loan you some cables to try , if you don't hear any benefit or worse yet, perceive a deterioration, don't do it. ( even if the new component is showing up other deficiencies in the system - address that first )
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I am sure that this has been stated a million times over and I will preface this by saying I am not much of a cable guy. Not much because I would not use winflew to wire up my stereo or headphones.
To a large extent , it is where you find yourself in the hobby. An analogy, something else that relies heavily of sensory interpretation and experience. Wine or single malt whisky
this is your system - when you get to the point that you question or find fault in your system, that is the time to look at the elements of your system, and wiring is not a trivial part of the equation.
No, anyone can as easily slug down a drink or put on a pair of headphones, recognizing the intended outcome takes talent. The accuracy analogy is a matter of opinion, I have a palate for single malts and an ear for what I like, it thus makes perfect sense. Listening to 50s recordings and expecting to hear the difference ( albeit minor ) in audible nuance is different again from listening to well mastered modern recordings. It is a learning process. You train your ear to hear things ( consciously or not ) . If I listen to certain gear ( regardless of cost ) and it doesn't suite my personal listening preferences, no switching of cables is going to improve my experience, unless I forget to connect it entirely. If you like tubey harmonics, that is a preference, no cable is going to change this for you, a revealing cable may allow you to perceive more noise than you prefer, don't buy the cable. Build a system to suite your own preferences , if that means you want to spend $20K on a cable , so be it.