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I was just learning about medicine and drugs in my school, and perked up when they mentioned placebo effects. And the way it's treated in medicine and drugs is so simple compared to the way we audiophiles seem to treat placebo.
Well firstly, the doctors, scientists and drug manufacturers agree there IS placebo effect in taking drugs. And I know most of you guys would probably agree that there IS placebo effect in audio stuff too, but what I found interesting is how they treated it compared to how it seems audio placebo is treated.
The placebo effect actually improves your natural rate of healing and this seems to be commonly accepted by the drug people. What seems to be the debate is whether the production and consumption (i.e. costs) of the drug in question is worth the improvements moving from merely a placebo to the placebo+effect of drug.
Relating this to audio, why can't we all agree our brain messes around with the inputs coming in from our ears, so YES there can be "audible" and real (in the your brain is telling you it's different sense) differences in the sound perceived, depending on the individual as placebo affects different individuals to differing extents from none to miraculous healings/recoveries in the medical arena.
Is it really so important whether the improvement is from placebo+effect of insertaudiocomponent or merely from placebo? All that matters is whether the individual in question feels the cost to them is worth the change in perceived sound. We're not even a big pharmaceutical company who has to consider the average rate of placebo effects or whatever, it's completely individual for us! If it works for you, good for your ears/brain! If it doesn't work then good for your wallet!
And for those who don't believe in cables/whatnot, why spoil their fun! Placebo can be really powerful and if you're one of those lucky/unlucky few who either lack the placebo gene (if those studies are true) or just are not as affected by placebo, why attempt to diminish the placebo effect for others!
And I hope my attempt to be neutral has worked, and no one can tell if I am currently a believer in cables and the like
And sorry for the epic lack of sources and evidence for my claims (well other than my teacher, and we all know teachers are the ultimate source of truth
), but I do think they're rather common ideas, a google search might bring up more evidence or whatnot, and I might add in evidence if this garners sufficient agreement/disagreement/debate heh.
Or am I getting this all wrong and most doctors do not agree on placebo too and my teacher lied to me
Well firstly, the doctors, scientists and drug manufacturers agree there IS placebo effect in taking drugs. And I know most of you guys would probably agree that there IS placebo effect in audio stuff too, but what I found interesting is how they treated it compared to how it seems audio placebo is treated.
The placebo effect actually improves your natural rate of healing and this seems to be commonly accepted by the drug people. What seems to be the debate is whether the production and consumption (i.e. costs) of the drug in question is worth the improvements moving from merely a placebo to the placebo+effect of drug.
Relating this to audio, why can't we all agree our brain messes around with the inputs coming in from our ears, so YES there can be "audible" and real (in the your brain is telling you it's different sense) differences in the sound perceived, depending on the individual as placebo affects different individuals to differing extents from none to miraculous healings/recoveries in the medical arena.
Is it really so important whether the improvement is from placebo+effect of insertaudiocomponent or merely from placebo? All that matters is whether the individual in question feels the cost to them is worth the change in perceived sound. We're not even a big pharmaceutical company who has to consider the average rate of placebo effects or whatever, it's completely individual for us! If it works for you, good for your ears/brain! If it doesn't work then good for your wallet!
And for those who don't believe in cables/whatnot, why spoil their fun! Placebo can be really powerful and if you're one of those lucky/unlucky few who either lack the placebo gene (if those studies are true) or just are not as affected by placebo, why attempt to diminish the placebo effect for others!
And I hope my attempt to be neutral has worked, and no one can tell if I am currently a believer in cables and the like
And sorry for the epic lack of sources and evidence for my claims (well other than my teacher, and we all know teachers are the ultimate source of truth
Or am I getting this all wrong and most doctors do not agree on placebo too and my teacher lied to me