AUDIO over IP - REDNET 3 & 16 Review. AES67 Sets A New Standard for Computer Audio

[rb2013]

See my post on the DAC60 Mod thread. Let's pick it up there. Please for the second time. Trying to be patient with you my friend.

Take it as you may. If you like the Rednet or if you don't - I really don't care. Won't argue DAC stuff here, but I have heard your DAC. I've heard almost all PCM1704U/U-K DACs. Not for me.

Please read the post my DAC60 page. I'm just going to ignore your continuation of this OT here.

 

[somestranger26]

Has anyone experienced an occasional popping sound with the RN3? I've been noticing a pop or slight skip in the audio like a mini dropout every 15-30 minutes.
 
I'm using these settings:

1. 4ms Dante Latency
2. 1ms Rednet latency (Max network size: Gigiabit network with ten switches) <- I increased this from 150usec hoping it would fix the popping
3. 32 samples ASIO buffer
4. 24-bit, 192kHz
5. Direct connection (no switch)

 
It is my understanding that rb2013 and probably others have their latency and buffer settings at the minimum without issues.

 

[Kelowna]

Has anyone experienced an occasional popping sound with the RN3? I've been noticing a pop or slight skip in the audio like a mini dropout every 15-30 minutes.

I'm using these settings:

• 4ms Dante Latency
• 1ms Rednet latency (Max network size: Gigiabit network with ten switches) <- I increased this from 150usec hoping it would fix the popping
• 32 samples ASIO buffer
• 24-bit, 192kHz

It is my understanding that rb2013 and probably others have their latency and buffer settings at the minimum without issues.

I would list every component in your network chain. Such as switch model, cables etc. One thing about AOIP is, it really should be used with switches and network gear known to give flawless results. There's so many variables like switch firewall settings, glitchy firmware and all kinds of quirks that can potentially happen. For example, Merging recommends the Dell 2808 switch. This doesn't mean 20 other switches don't also work great, what it means is that's the switch they have tested and know for sure works flawless.

 

[somestranger26]

I would list every component in your network chain. Such as switch model, cables etc. One thing about AOIP is, it really should be used with switches and network gear known to give flawless results. There's so many variables like switch firewall settings, glitchy firmware and all kinds of quirks that can potentially happen. For example, Merging recommends the Dell 2808 switch. This doesn't mean 20 other switches don't also work great, what it means is that's the switch they have tested and know for sure works flawless.

I meant to say I have it connected directly from an Intel PCI-E NIC in my computer to the RN3, with the CAT6A cable that came with it.
 
Edit: Huh... I just got multiple dropouts in a  row and had a huge latency spike. 14.6ms peak latency... that's even higher than the highest setting (5ms "Safe setting").

 

[Kelowna]

I meant to say I have it connected directly from an Intel PCI-E NIC in my computer to the RN3, with the CAT6A cable that came with it.

Well I guess that eliminates the switch from the equation when troubleshooting.

 

[joelha]

Actually, it would be great to know what latency, buffer, and other settings people are using as well as preferred cables and network equipment.

Joel

 

[Albrecht]

. Now back to Jason Serinus from Stereoreview.

Hi RB,

I have heard Jason's system a few times when he was in Oakland, and running BAAS. He's also heard mine a few times. He seems to have big, open, rooms, that allow the Sasha's to breathe: which is a good idea IMO.
I haven't heard the system with the DCS stuff in it though. I'm not such a fan of the Pass Labs gear, but perhaps a really nice synergy between the DCS, Wilson's and Pass.
I like how Jason values performance, and doesn't have to be a stickler for great recording sonics, - he''s not shy about putting on a great recorded performance.
He's also had AlexP over as well, and had APL stuff in his system.
I am up in Seattle fairly often, so I should look him up....

I think that it would be great for him to hear the Pro-Audio RedNet3, - especially if you surprise him with it.

Cheers,

 

[rb2013]

Has anyone experienced an occasional popping sound with the RN3? I've been noticing a pop or slight skip in the audio like a mini dropout every 15-30 minutes.

I'm using these settings:

• 4ms Dante Latency
• 1ms Rednet latency (Max network size: Gigiabit network with ten switches) <- I increased this from 150usec hoping it would fix the popping
• 32 samples ASIO buffer
• 24-bit, 192kHz
• Direct connection (no switch)

It is my understanding that rb2013 and probably others have their latency and buffer settings at the minimum without issues.

Try increasing the buffer to 1024. That's where mine is set.

 

[gldgate]

I currently have the following settings:
 

1. ​4ms Dante latency
2. 250us Rednet latency
3. 128 sample ASIO buffer
4. 32-bit (various sample rates)
5. Direct connection

 
Over 4 days (20 hrs of playback) I have had one pop.
 
Computer is Intel i7-4790 @ 4GHz. 32GB RAM, Windows 10 Pro.
 
Not that I have the budget for it right now, but I am kind of hoping someone splurges on the RedNet PCIe card and provides some feedback. Not sure it would enhance sq but it sure as heck should improve any latency issues.

 

[lateboomer]

Hi RB,
 
 
Your main listening room is highly resolving as you said. May I know what interconnects and speaker cables you are using? What power cords you use for your amp?
 
I can't find any info from your profile.

 

[sbgk]

Try increasing the buffer to 1024. That's where mine is set.

is that because it sounds best at that setting, or does the buffer size no longer make a difference to the sq (as long as it's big enough to avoid dropouts) ?

 

[joelha]

Rb2013,

Did you ever get the specifics on the copper tubing you purchased?

Length, diameter, item number, did you buy it pre-cut or did you have to cut out yourself?

Thanks.

Joel

 

[markus94103]

I don't remember if the Bifrost DS we had plugged in was daisy chained or direct. @markus94103, do you remember if it was direct to the R3 or it was daisy chained through my Matrix? (Also quite possibly your AGD Wolfson DAC's spdif input may not be defective, you'll be able to test it with the DU-U8 soon)

 
Sorry, I don't remember which it was. Looking forward to trying the DU-U8 though!

 

[Soundsgoodtome]

Well, this isn't good news. I was banking on a date processor to remedy my 24/192khz woes on the rednet. Can you turn your Windows power settings to high performance and set minimum cpu process to 100%.

Also get into your bios and turn off cpu speedstep.

 

[Soundsgoodtome]

^^^ read last post

somestranger26
computer specs?