AUDIO over IP - REDNET 3 & 16 Review. AES67 Sets A New Standard for Computer Audio

Jun 18, 2016 at 4:34 PM Post #406 of 3,694
Channel mappings, etc. are also a pain when all I want is 2 channel audio.
 

 
This is a Pro-Audio tool, not a consumer device.
 
I wish there was a way to get DVS to work in both ASIO and WDM modes simultaneously like what the XMOS drivers allow.

This is a virtual sound card, not XMOS-drivers for a physical sound card.
 
 
Reading you first comments makes me wonder if this Pro-tool is the type of device for you.
 
 
Hope I'm not too blund / bold. 
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Jun 18, 2016 at 4:47 PM Post #407 of 3,694
Originally Posted by jabbr /img/forum/go_quote.gif
This is a Pro-Audio tool, not a consumer device.

Obviously. What a useless comment.
Originally Posted by jabbr /img/forum/go_quote.gif
This is a virtual sound card, not XMOS-drivers for a physical sound card.

 
So what? A virtual sound card can function for both ASIO and WDM simultaneously if it is designed for it. Virtual hardware drivers are no different than drivers for physical hardware in this respect.
 
Jun 18, 2016 at 4:57 PM Post #408 of 3,694
Obviously. What a useless comment.

So what? A virtual sound card can function for both ASIO and WDM simultaneously if it is designed for it. Virtual hardware drivers are no different than drivers for physical hardware in this respect.


The VB-Audio Hifi cable should be a solution for your WDM issue. It sounds great as well.


http://vb-audio.pagesperso-orange.fr/Cable/
 
Jun 18, 2016 at 4:57 PM Post #409 of 3,694
I posted longer comments over at CA but wanted to post something over here as well. To my ears D16>Mutec MC3>Yggy combo is best sq I have heard in my system to date. I prefer it to both the uRendu and Dual PC systems I also have. I was a bit skeptical with all the praise but after listening consider me a AOIP convert - at least with the Dante implementation of the D16. 
 
Jun 18, 2016 at 5:14 PM Post #410 of 3,694
The VB-Audio Hifi cable should be a solution for your WDM issue. It sounds great as well.


http://vb-audio.pagesperso-orange.fr/Cable/


Perfect, thank you! Now I can even route Reclock through ASIO when I'm watching movies and shows. I'm sure I'm not the only person who will find this useful. The set up for the ASIO bridge was less than 5 minutes and much easier than Dante / Rednet setup
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Jun 18, 2016 at 5:27 PM Post #411 of 3,694
Perfect, thank you! Now I can even route Reclock through ASIO when I'm watching movies and shows. I'm sure I'm not the only person who will find this useful. The set up for the ASIO bridge was less than 5 minutes and much easier than Dante / Rednet setup ;)


No problem. It's a killer piece of software. A big step up from WDM to my ears. Please donate, they deserve it. :)
 
Jun 19, 2016 at 9:28 PM Post #414 of 3,694
  I posted longer comments over at CA but wanted to post something over here as well. To my ears D16>Mutec MC3>Yggy combo is best sq I have heard in my system to date. I prefer it to both the uRendu and Dual PC systems I also have. I was a bit skeptical with all the praise but after listening consider me a AOIP convert - at least with the Dante implementation of the D16. 


That speaks volumes - thanks for the post!
 
I did a simple tweek that added at least another 5 points to the REDNET/Mutec 3+USB combination.
 
I have a excellent power cord - one that has out performed every other I have tried before and really does make a difference.  The Cerious Tech Graphene Extreme Red (for low current draws).
 
I had this into the REDNET 3 and a generic silver pc into the Mutec.  I did a simple power cord switch and it really improved the sound.  Then added a thick copper EMI/RF shield to the Cerious tech power input (very close to the spdif input) another incremental improvement!  These are available from Lowes for $10.
 

 
Will get another for the RN3 next week.
 
BTW I paid $250 for the Cerious Graphene  - the normally go for $500.  So having it in the best position is most efficent.  Have another on the ALP DAC.
 
 
Cheers!
 
Jun 19, 2016 at 9:59 PM Post #417 of 3,694
 
That speaks volumes - thanks for the post!
 
I did a simple tweek that added at least another 5 points to the REDNET/Mutec 3+USB combination.
 
I have a excellent power cord - one that has out performed every other I have tried before and really does make a difference.  The Cerious Tech Graphene Extreme Red (for low current draws).
 
I had this into the REDNET 3 and a generic silver pc into the Mutec.  I did a simple power cord switch and it really improved the sound.  Then added a thick copper EMI/RF shield to the Cerious tech power input (very close to the spdif input) another incremental improvement!  These are available from Lowes for $10.
 

 
Will get another for the RN3 next week.
 
BTW I paid $250 for the Cerious Graphene  - the normally go for $500.  So having it in the best position is most efficent.  Have another on the ALP DAC.
 
 
Cheers

 
Thanks for the feedback. So glad we got the thread back.  This is developing into a key resource for consumer AOIP.
 
Jun 19, 2016 at 11:45 PM Post #418 of 3,694
With the reopening of the thread I have changed the title to: "AUDIO over IP - REDNET 3 & 16 Review.  AES67 Sets A New Standard for Computer Audio"
 
I'd like to keep this thread focused more on the REDNET devices and then AES67 developments.
 
So please try and limit the dicussion of the microrendu to comparisons to the REDNET DDC's.  Same for any AVB stuff.  NAA, HQP, Roon, RAAT as well.
 
This is a renewed emphasis on these 'here and now' audio products.
 
AOIP is the new King of computer audio!
 
Jun 19, 2016 at 11:50 PM Post #419 of 3,694
Rb2013,

Great information regarding the copper piece.

Could you give the item number, link, or exact description of the Lowes item?

Thanks.

Joel


Yes when I buy another tomorrow, I'll get the product description.
 
It you have or plan on getting a high end power cord - definitely use it on the Mutec (if your using the RN and Mutec combination).
 
This is interesting - not only is the REDNET seemingly uneffected by good quality CAT6 cables (I'll be try a few more soon, including the STP  CAT7) but power chords as well.
 
The Cerious Graphene on the Mutec as reclocker made a nice improvement in image depth.
 
PS I also have the Purist Audio Design Colussus XLR digital coming tomorrow.
 
The GB optical ethernet extenders on the way:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003CFATKQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
 
And Monoprice optical cable:
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?p_id=6843&gclid=Cj0KEQjwhZm7BRCUyfS6ho2VjOEBEiQAumpGMpQyZIIMMExv5ePV8GTkskOLw91GIGOj4-lm7qLoko0aAlB78P8HAQ
 
So much to explore!
 
Jun 20, 2016 at 12:00 AM Post #420 of 3,694
As it happens, I have a Mutec MC-3 USB.

But first I have to get my D16 running.

That's not an exactly intuitive process . . . at least not for me.

I hope I'm getting close to working that out.

One question: the copper piece you're using was already cut to size or you had to cut it?

Thanks.

Joel
 

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