AUDIO over IP - REDNET 3 & 16 Review. AES67 Sets A New Standard for Computer Audio

[rb2013]

 
Meh. Phase noise is probably bogus compared to the Cybershaft units.

Well Yeah - $149 vs $1000.  But maybe worth a try.  Might order one up.  Should be even better with a decent LPS instead of the SMPS.

 

[rb2013]

  Well, after gotten assurance from Focusrite Tech Support that the 16 R and the 16 AES are more or less the same, I jumped the Rednet wagon (and the Mutec MC-3 + USB)
 
"Apart from the front panel design, the redundant power supply and ethernet there are no notable differences between the D16 and D16R"
 
"Yes, both the D16 and D16R use the Brooklyn II module and the RedNet 3 does use a Brooklyn I module. The only difference for the end user between Brooklyn I and II is the ability to assign a static IP address to the device and in the future, AES67 compatibility. Both devices are purely digital so there is no sonic difference between them. 

I would not anticipate any issues using either the D16 or D16R in a home audio setup, using a mac or pc and Dante Virtual Soundcard. If you did choose the D16R you would only need to have one ethernet cable and one power cable connected to use the device."
 
Got it working after downloading DVS, Dante Controller, Rednet Controller (do I need this?) and Java (pre 2015) in about 30 minuttes. But shouldnt there be a valid license for DVS included? Nothing in the box so I use the Trial download for now.
 
Initially the sound is very, very good! I feel I am missing a little inner detail but the "flow" of music is fantastic!  The sound is very close  to my USB chain (Berkeley usb/spdif converter, Regen, Curious Cables) after 10 min. Looking forward getting som hours and playtime on it. And more to come later on..... (the Mutec)
 
 
Tommy

Good feedback vs a very nice USB rig.
 
I have a card with the code in my box for the DVS license.
 
Interesting comments from Focusrite on the SQ equivalency between the RN 3 and RN D16 - that is BK I and BK II cards.
 
Wait until you try the Mutec.  What AES cable are you using to connect to your DAC?
 
PS Also try both the 32bit and 24bit setting in DVS and RN controller.  In my system they sound a little bit different.

 

[Tand2016]

 
Good feedback vs a very nice USB rig.
 
I have a card with the code in my box for the DVS license.
 
Interesting comments from Focusrite on the SQ equivalency between the RN 3 and RN D16 - that is BK I and BK II cards.
 
Wait until you try the Mutec.  What AES cable are you using to connect to your DAC?
 
PS Also try both the 32bit and 24bit setting in DVS and RN controller.  In my system they sound a little bit different.

Thanks for inspiration to try the Rednet. I would never had tried it if it wasnt for this tread and you!
 
I am using a Shunyata Anaconda AES 1,5 m. 

 

[rb2013]

 
Thanks for inspiration to try the Rednet. I would never had tried it if it wasnt for this tread and you!
 
I am using a Shunyata Anaconda AES 1,5 m. 

Thanks for the kind words - sweet AES cable. 
 
Of course like most audio gear the RN stuff needs a 100 hours to burnin - same for the Mutec.  They'll open up some more.
 
Welcome to the future of digital audio

 

[gldgate]

 
Great feedback thanks.  Yes in the Live Clock manual they say to allow for time for the clock sync - what a great feature.
 
So you are using the Live Clock to fed Wclock into the REDNET and the Mutec as SPDIF/AES reclocker right.  Then the Cybershaft (that name gets me chuckling every time) just to the 10M input on the Live Clock.

​Yes, you nailed it. Also agree that I would not have chosen the name Cybershaft as my first choice.

 

[rb2013]

 
​Yes, you nailed it. Also agree that I would not have chosen the name Cybershaft as my first choice.

Maybe some thing lost in the translation.  How much is the dual OXCO and Rubidium unit?

 

[Tand2016]

Thanks! I must say I really like it already

 

[rb2013]

 
Thanks! I must say I really like it already

Going from a really refined USB chain - to the REDNET AOIP - something was different in the SQ.  Like a kind of distortion was removed - certainly the detail improved.  But I think it's in the bass that I heard the most improvement - depth and definition like never before.  I think for some bass heavy systems that might be too much.  But on my Maggies it was perfect.

 

[Tand2016]

The sound feels cleaner, maybe because there is less noise polution....? I have 6 x 10" and 2 x 15" in my system, so hopefully my neighbours will appreciate the better qulity of the sound too  

 

[jabbr]

..... But shouldnt there be a valid license for DVS included? Nothing in the box so I use the Trial download for now.

.....

Tommy

Enjoy the new RN16, it is very good and takes another major leap when you add the MC-3+USB as well.

With the Rednet there should be a card to register your Rednet with Focusrite. From there you can download all software and it will give you also a code to use when registering and downloading the DVS from Audinate's site.
So the Focusrite registration will give you a code to use at the Audinate registration wich will give you a valid DVS license code.

A bit strange, this two stage registration, but it has the advantage that you can always check your license codes at Focusrite and at Audinate and both will keep you up to date with the latest releases from software from each.

Yes, you will also need Renet Control. This will allow you to change settings of the Rednet device itself, like activating/deactivating sample rate conversion on digital inputs, to switch between internal and external word clock and most important to update the firmware of the Rednet.
So you'll need:
- Rednet Control from Focusrite
- Dante Control from Audinate
- DVS from Audinate

Cheers

 

[Tand2016]

Enjoy the new RN16, it is very good and takes a major leap when you add the MC-3+USB as well.

With the Rednet there should be a card to register your rednet with Focusrite. From there you can download all software and it will give you a code to use when downloading the DVS from Audinate's site.
So the Focusrite registration will give you a code to use at the Audinate registration with will give you a valid DVS license code.
A bit strange, this two stage registration, but it has the advantage that you can always check the license codes at Focusrite and at Audinate and both will keep you up to date with the latest releases from software from both manufacturers.

Yes, you will also need Renet Control. This will allow you to change settings of the Rednet like activating/deactivating sample rate conversion on digital inputs, to switch between internal and external word clock and most important to update the firmware of the Rednet.
So you'll need:
- Rednet Control from Focusrite
- Dante Control from Audinate
- DVS from Audinate

Cheers

Thanks Jabbr
 
About 1 hour with playing now and it sounds amazing with Tidal and music from my Nas.
 
I will check one more time, I got a code but I thougt it was for trial only.
 
Tommy

 

[jabbr]

Enjoy the new RN16, it is very good and takes a major leap when you add the MC-3+USB as well.


With the Rednet there should be a card to register your rednet with Focusrite. From there you can download all software and it will give you a code to use when downloading the DVS from Audinate's site.

So the Focusrite registration will give you a code to use at the Audinate registration with will give you a valid DVS license code.

A bit strange, this two stage registration, but it has the advantage that you can always check the license codes at Focusrite and at Audinate and both will keep you up to date with the latest releases from software from both manufacturers.


Yes, you will also need Renet Control. This will allow you to change settings of the Rednet like activating/deactivating sample rate conversion on digital inputs, to switch between internal and external word clock and most important to update the firmware of the Rednet.

So you'll need:

- Rednet Control from Focusrite

- Dante Control from Audinate

- DVS from Audinate


Cheers

Thanks Jabbr

About 1 hour with playing now and it sounds amazing with Tidal and music from my Nas.

I will check one more time, I got a code but I thougt it was for trial only.

Tommy

Tommy

First register your device at Focusrite and start downloading the software from that registration procedure.
It will give you the code and the link for the Audinate registration.
I was a bit confused as well but managed to complete it

 

[enginedr]

Enjoy the new RN16, it is very good and takes another major leap when you add the MC-3+USB as well.

With the Rednet there should be a card to register your Rednet with Focusrite. From there you can download all software and it will give you also a code to use when registering and downloading the DVS from Audinate's site.
So the Focusrite registration will give you a code to use at the Audinate registration wich will give you a valid DVS license code.

A bit strange, this two stage registration, but it has the advantage that you can always check your license codes at Focusrite and at Audinate and both will keep you up to date with the latest releases from software from each.

Yes, you will also need Renet Control. This will allow you to change settings of the Rednet device itself, like activating/deactivating sample rate conversion on digital inputs, to switch between internal and external word clock and most important to update the firmware of the Rednet.
So you'll need:
- Rednet Control from Focusrite
- Dante Control from Audinate
- DVS from Audinate

Cheers

I pulled the trigger on the Mutec MC3 + USB to add to my RED NET 3 , Antelope Live clock combo . I have the parts to assemble a DB25 to AES cable . There goes another 1000
hope you guys are right .I should have it before the weekend

 

[gldgate]

 
Maybe some thing lost in the translation.  How much is the dual OXCO and Rubidium unit?

 
With shipping and exchange rate approximately $1600.

 

[gldgate]

 
I pulled the trigger on the Mutec MC3 + USB to add to my RED NET 3 , Antelope Live clock combo . I have the parts to assemble a DB25 to AES cable . There goes another 1000
hope you guys are right .I should have it before the weekend

 
Congrats - I'm pretty sure you will be satisfied with your puchase.