[phandrew]

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anyone here with experience for both the NFB 3.1 and NFB-12. I no longer need a dac/amp all in one, wondering if 3.1 as dedicated dac be any improvement.

I had the NFB12 for a few weeks before getting the NFB3.1 and yes i say it's an improvement.

 

[khaine1711]

That's what intrigues me about the higher end audio gd dacs. Most people report them to be very neutral/colorless without being analytical. I didn't realize that one can be neutral and enjoyable at the same time. My opinion of neutral is something along the line of monitoring equipment, flat and somewhat dry. That changes when I listen to Stax, very transparent and enjoyable. I was hoping that the higher end audio gd DACs share some of that characteristic.
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I found the DAC19 to be less coloured and more resolving of fine details. This is not to say that the NFB DACs are massively coloured though - I'm simply trying to tease-out the differences between the two. I always found my original NFB3 to be a massively enjoyable DAC to listen to. I just happen to be enjoying the DAC19 more in my system right now
 
 

How's the soundstage of nfb3 compared to the 12. I have almost no complaints about the nfb12 considering the price except the nfb12's soundstage is somewhat narrow =p.


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I had the NFB12 for a few weeks before getting the NFB3.1 and yes i say it's an improvement.

 

 

[eclipes]

what would you say the improvements are? NFB-12 is a great unit but the soundstage is too narrow for liking.
 
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I had the NFB12 for a few weeks before getting the NFB3.1 and yes i say it's an improvement.

 

 

[phandrew]

The NFB3.1 has a wider soundstage for sure compared to the NFB12. Instruments are more separated in the NFB3.1 as well. NFB3.1 also makes music more engaging whereas the NFB12 was held back a bit.

 

[eclipes]

thanks, i'm gonna look into getting the NFB 3.1
 
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The NFB3.1 has a wider soundstage for sure compared to the NFB12. Instruments are more separated in the NFB3.1 as well. NFB3.1 also makes music more engaging whereas the NFB12 was held back a bit.

 

 

[phandrew]

If you are going to get the NFB3.1 best if you email them for the cheapest price. I got 10% off my NFB3.1 when i also ordered NFB10SE for my bro.

 

[khaine1711]

That promotion ends 1 month ago I think; I also got 5% of my Nfb12. I've read that sometimes people get 10% off if they order 2 things at the same time (not to mention reduced shipping cost) 
 
I can't email kingwa yet (empty wallet now). My plan is to order both nfb3.1 (replace coaxial RCA with BNC) and DI + PSU to save some money on shipping. 
 
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If you are going to get the NFB3.1 best if you email them for the cheapest price. I got 10% off my NFB3.1 when i also ordered NFB10SE for my bro.

 

 

[eclipes]

Great, I'll check it out with Kingwa. Khaine1711, what does the Digital Interface + PSU do? what is its main benefit?
 
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That promotion ends 1 month ago I think; I also got 5% of my Nfb12. I've read that sometimes people get 10% off if they order 2 things at the same time (not to mention reduced shipping cost) 
 
I can't email kingwa yet (empty wallet now). My plan is to order both nfb3.1 (replace coaxial RCA with BNC) and DI + PSU to save some money on shipping. 
 


 

 

 

[khaine1711]

It's a transport like the hiface or audiophileo 1 2 - the bridge between your computer and the dac. I couldn't justify using it with the nfb12 ($200 dac $200 transport

); but the Nfb3 is worthy enough of a decent transport imo.
 
You can read various thread here to see people mention many "improvements" transport can bring: bigger soundstage, more resolving, enhancement on stuff and stuff. I don't have much experience with said transports; however upon trying various input on my Nfb12; I'm convinced that I need one (the optical out on my mainboard murders the soundstage; usb sounds a bit "flat", coaxial sound best, adding a bit of warmth to the sound, they're small differences but quite noticeable). I'm excited to try what improvements a dedicated transport can bring.
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Great, I'll check it out with Kingwa. Khaine1711, what does the Digital Interface + PSU do? what is its main benefit?
 


 

 

 

[eclipes]

yeah I emailed Kingwa about the transport, he didn't even recommend me getting the transport, said it wouldn't make much difference. Recommended me to get the NFB- 3.1 so with your combo of 3.1 and DI+Psu, should be quite good.
 
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It's a transport like the hiface or audiophileo 1 2 - the bridge between your computer and the dac. I couldn't justify using it with the nfb12 ($200 dac $200 transport

); but the Nfb3 is worthy enough of a decent transport imo.
 
You can read various thread here to see people mention many "improvements" transport can bring: bigger soundstage, more resolving, enhancement on stuff and stuff. I don't have much experience with said transports; however upon trying various input on my Nfb12; I'm convinced that I need one (the optical out on my mainboard murders the soundstage; usb sounds a bit "flat", coaxial sound best, adding a bit of warmth to the sound, they're small differences but quite noticeable). I'm excited to try what improvements a dedicated transport can bring.


 

 

 

[villageidiot]

Just received my nfb 3.1. I, however, keep getting complete and utter static when I change the 'flavor' to either 7,8 and 9.
 
Someone please help me.

 

[khaine1711]

The flavor 7,8,9 only works with 48khz file. So if you play any file from 49khz->192khz, you'll hear only static.
 
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Just received my nfb 3.1. I, however, keep getting complete and utter static when I change the 'flavor' to either 7,8 and 9.
 
Someone please help me.

 

 

[villageidiot]

Thanks for clearing that up!

 

[Bigg35]

Hey guys, I am in the market for a new dac and am considering going with something from Audio-gd. This is for a 2 channel speaker system. How would a Nfb-3.1 compare to some of the more mainstream dacs such as the Musical Fidelity V-DAC, Cambridge Audio DacMagic or even something more expensive like the Benchmark Dac-1?


I listen to a lot of classic rock and country.i like the highs to be very clear and distinct. I like it best when the songs I listen to are very clear and revealing. Not too concerned with bass, but, the mids and highs need to be crystal clear.

 

[eclipes]

yeah any reviews on the NFB 3.1 for studio monitors? quite interested in the dedicated DAC, currently using the NFB-12
 
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Hey guys, I am in the market for a new dac and am considering going with something from Audio-gd. This is for a 2 channel speaker system. How would a Nfb-3.1 compare to some of the more mainstream dacs such as the Musical Fidelity V-DAC, Cambridge Audio DacMagic or even something more expensive like the Benchmark Dac-1?
I listen to a lot of classic rock and country.i like the highs to be very clear and distinct. I like it best when the songs I listen to are very clear and revealing. Not too concerned with bass, but, the mids and highs need to be crystal clear.