[CaptainFantastic]

I have shoulder and neck ache after 3-4hours of listening

But no issue with headband tho..

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The problem with the neck ache, as I recall from the LCD-2CB, is that it doesn't go away 15 min or 1 hour after setting in. It lingers a while. And then you are unable to enjoy the headphones the next time you put them on, because you think about that pain even before it comes.

 

[Focux]

The problem with the neck ache, as I recall from the LCD-2CB, is that it doesn't go away 15 min or 1 hour after setting in. It lingers a while. And then you are unable to enjoy the headphones the next time you put them on, because you think about that pain even before it comes.

I woke up the next day and it’s still aching =(

 

[commtrd]

Never had any problems with any of my LCD headphones ever with neck ache. I really cannot understand how anyone could possibly have any issues with just wearing a headphone. These things don't weigh 25 lbs after all. Now clamping pressure, hot spots on top of head, stuff like that, ABSOLUTELY can see that. The old style headband would sometimes give me really uncomfortable hot spots on top. Especially after having worn them for 10 hours straight. But weight making my neck hurt? Just can't see that at all. I think for that to happen, I would have to be trying to support 40 or 50 lbs on my head for hours on end to even begin to make my neck truly hurt as described. 650 grams is really nothing far as weight.

 

[CaptainFantastic]

I think we are all different in that respect. I am very fit, but I don't do specific neck exercises. For me 650 grams was too much after 1 hour, 550 is absolutely fine.

It is not just the weight, it's also how the heavy headphones change the balance of that weight on your neck.

https://www.quora.com/If-the-averag...how-can-the-neck-support-something-this-heavy

 

[thermos]

I only demoed the lcd4 for a short time, like 20 minutes. In that time I got a serious neck ache. I couldn’t handle them. The 4z I wear for 2 hrs at a time with no problem.

 

[Focux]

I only demoed the lcd4 for a short time, like 20 minutes. In that time I got a serious neck ache. I couldn’t handle them. The 4z I wear for 2 hrs at a time with no problem.

I can do 2hrs no problem but 3-4 starts being an issue

Well I guess I should take a break from work after 2hrs anyhow..

Hopefully I get used to it and not have aches after a couple weeks else I guess the X has to be replaced

 

[franz12]

Never had any problems with any of my LCD headphones ever with neck ache. I really cannot understand how anyone could possibly have any issues with just wearing a headphone. These things don't weigh 25 lbs after all. Now clamping pressure, hot spots on top of head, stuff like that, ABSOLUTELY can see that. The old style headband would sometimes give me really uncomfortable hot spots on top. Especially after having worn them for 10 hours straight. But weight making my neck hurt? Just can't see that at all. I think for that to happen, I would have to be trying to support 40 or 50 lbs on my head for hours on end to even begin to make my neck truly hurt as described. 650 grams is really nothing far as weight.

I think it has something to with in what occasions we use them. Some people just listen to music and relax. Some others use them while they work like typing, reading, and etc. Depending on one's posture in various positions, the law of gravity may or may not be an issue with 600g.

But you can wear them 10 hours straight. You must be doing shrugs on a regular basis

 

[Focux]

I think it has something to with in what occasions we use them. Some people just listen to music and relax. Some others use them while they work like typing, reading, and etc. Depending on one's posture in various positions, the law of gravity may or may not be an issue with 600g.

But you can wear them 10 hours straight. You must be doing shrugs on a regular basis

Hahaha yeah I use them while working..

 

[commtrd]

I think it has something to with in what occasions we use them. Some people just listen to music and relax. Some others use them while they work like typing, reading, and etc. Depending on one's posture in various positions, the law of gravity may or may not be an issue with 600g.

But you can wear them 10 hours straight. You must be doing shrugs on a regular basis

Nope. No dedicated neck exercise whatsoever. Never had any problem with any of my LCD headphones.

 

[jlbrach]

I have owned the lcd-3, 4 and 4z and never found them to be difficult to wear....they are heavy but well distributed and the 4z is lighter than the 4...all in a great HP

 

[protoss]

I have owned the lcd-3, 4 and 4z and never found them to be difficult to wear....they are heavy but well distributed and the 4z is lighter than the 4...all in a great HP

You still own the 4Z? if yes, where do you rank them against the Abyss or other heaphones,

 

[jlbrach]

just sold them but loved them.....simply couldnt afford to keep so many TOTL HP's.....abyss and susvara 1a and 1b.....

 

[protoss]

I hear you.

 

[Dinrog]

I know its not optimal, since Audeze should actually make it an actual suspensionband.. but you can just shorten the leather yourself by couple milimeters and make new holes for the screws..

 

[mixman]

I am not that sensitive to the weight but I do find that I wear my Audeze HP’s less than my Hifiman, because of their comfort and weight. While I do think the 4z and the MX4 are steps in the right direction, I think Audeze has to try and make comfort a bigger priority, especially for their less expensive HP’s. This thread is an example of that.