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Mine are listed for $500 in classifieds. Basically brand new.
Hot take: If the amp is properly made, balanced offers literally zero benefits over single-ended. At best, at *best*, you might have a near imperceptibly less noisy signal. For something like the LCD2C, a $200 amp with enough juice will give you all you need.I believe so, while others may not.
Amplifiers do not "make stuff louder", they also add control, headroom, definition.
I am not suggesting get something $$$ expensive, but $200-400 balanced and you are golden... let the flame wars begin (goes to make popcorn
Your take... which is fineHot take: If the amp is properly made, balanced offers literally zero benefits over single-ended. At best, at *best*, you might have a near imperceptibly less noisy signal. For something like the LCD2C, a $200 amp with enough juice will give you all you need.
I ran LCD-2C's just fine in low gain with a JDS Labs Atom+, which has 1 watt at 32 ohm. You don't need a nuclear reactor to run these -- or many headphones, for that matter.Hot take: If the amp is properly made, balanced offers literally zero benefits over single-ended. At best, at *best*, you might have a near imperceptibly less noisy signal. For something like the LCD2C, a $200 amp with enough juice will give you all you need.
But what if I can make a coffin sized amp out of mahogany and can charge $10k?I ran LCD-2C's just fine in low gain with a JDS Labs Atom+, which has 1 watt at 32 ohm. You don't need a nuclear reactor to run these -- or many headphones, for that matter.
LOL!But what if I can make a coffin sized amp out of mahogany and can charge $10k?
LOL!
There's a reason JDS doesn't make an amp with more than 2.3 watts per channel at 32 ohms -- anything more is overkill for most headphones. JDS instead focuses on clean power, ergonomics, quality manufacturing and value for money instead of getting into numeric spec wars like Topping and so many other Chinese manufacturers these days.
Wattage is becoming similar to distortion and signal-to-noise figures in audiophile marketing. A headphone amp with 6 watts is ridiculous overkill for all but the most demanding headphones. You're paying extra for power you'll never need or use. It's very similar to a dude who owns a $100,000 Corvette Z06 and uses it to tool around town at 40 mph. What's the point other than looks or "my d*ck is bigger than yours?" Wouldn't a $35,000 car serve the same purpose?
And has anyone other than the ASR zealots EVER bought an amp because it had .0005 THD compared to another model that had .0008 THD? We're talking distortion well beyond the limits of human hearing.
The objective side of this hobby cracks me up at times. Yes, numbers matter -- to a point. They are valuable guideposts. But when do we trust our ears and brains and what sounds best to us and not some graph or statistic?
The day subjectivity gets squeezed from this hobby by numerical objectivism is the day I stop visiting this forum and other audiophile hangouts.
At least the Z06 looks nice as hell. A lot of the time it's more like if someone bought a 1996 Honda Accord and spent $50k sticking a turbocharged v10 in it and only drives it to the grocery store twice a week.LOL!
There's a reason JDS doesn't make an amp with more than 2.3 watts per channel at 32 ohms -- anything more is overkill for most headphones. JDS instead focuses on clean power, ergonomics, quality manufacturing and value for money instead of getting into numeric spec wars like Topping and so many other Chinese manufacturers these days.
Wattage is becoming similar to distortion and signal-to-noise figures in audiophile marketing. A headphone amp with 6 watts is ridiculous overkill for all but the most demanding headphones. You're paying extra for power you'll never need or use. It's very similar to a dude who owns a $100,000 Corvette Z06 and uses it to tool around town at 40 mph. What's the point other than looks or "my d*ck is bigger than yours?" Wouldn't a $35,000 car serve the same purpose?
And has anyone other than the ASR zealots EVER bought an amp because it had .0005 THD compared to another model that had .0008 THD? We're talking distortion well beyond the limits of human hearing.
The objective side of this hobby cracks me up at times. Yes, numbers matter -- to a point. They are valuable guideposts. But when do we trust our ears and brains and what sounds best to us and not some graph or statistic?
The day subjectivity gets squeezed from this hobby by numerical objectivism is the day I stop visiting this forum and other audiophile hangouts.
I've had the 2C for a few months now and I have to say...one of the best purchases ever. I'm loving them more and more every day. I do use eq on my Adi 2 Dac 100% of the time but damn they sound huge, weighty and most importantly incredibly fast. Punishingly fast. Snappiest kicks and snares ever. Plus they are extremely forgiving with bad recordings provided you use some EQ. Separation and detail retrieval is also very very good. Just listen to the latest Parkway Drive album Darker Still for a demonstration of all of the above - every instrument is clearly separated and you can really focus on McCall's vocal cords (although this is an extremely good production).
Finally, my 789 drives them beautifully!
Bonus: Sometimes I feel like these were made for death metal - stuff like Bolt Thrower, Deicide, the Black Dahlia Murder or even modern day Cannibal Corpse absolutely smash your face on the 2C.
I love Audeze because it has its own very unique housesound. More so with the LCD2 pre fazor and later LCD2 fazor models, than the rest of the line. I find them the most Audeze sounding, and worth the added cost of getting the rosewood model. The Classic version is a step in another direction to my ears.Quite amazing how these little buggers scale up with good gear.
They cost like 15% of my other gear but they are just as enjoyable (even tho they are behind in technicalities)
Currently running them from the Speakertaps of my T+A PA2000R until my Feliks Envy arrives