[DavidA]

   
Or tie a bunch of helium balloons to the top of your phones.

great idea, and if you need to change the sound let the helium out into the phone

 

[YtseJamer]

some canjam impressions say ether is right in between the 'brighter' hd800 and the the 'darker' audeze.

 
Interesting.  
 
If I don't like the Open EL-8, I will probably replace them with the Ether once the Canadian dollar will be in a better shape. 

 

[seanak]

these remind me of 598's

 

[Music Alchemist]

  Interesting.  
 
If I don't like the Open EL-8, I will probably replace them with the Ether once the Canadian dollar will be in a better shape. 

 
Oh yeah, that's another headphone that seems interesting to me. I wonder how it compares to the HD 800 et al. I also heard about the Kennerton Odin today.

 

[Tribbs]

What is it about having low output impedance that would make a 30 ohm headphone sound worse on it? I've used low impedance headphones on low output impedance amps with no problems. In fact, I thought having too high output impedance was what you were supposed to look out for.

Too high impedance:
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0321/7609/files/Headphone_Amplifier_Performance_-_Part_2.pdf?1361

 

[Music Alchemist]

Too high impedance:
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0321/7609/files/Headphone_Amplifier_Performance_-_Part_2.pdf?1361

 
Although I did ask for technical explanations, I'm going to revise my request and ask for a dumbed-down, straight to the point one. Wayyy too lazy to read through all that. XD
 
If all you mean is that 30 ohms is too high impedance for an amp with low output impedance, that doesn't sound right to me at all, since Schiit Audio's solid-state amps have low output impedance, yet are well regarded with high impedance headphones.

 

[Tribbs]

Some describe it as "Synergy" :bigsmile_face:

 

[DavidA]

Too high impedance:
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0321/7609/files/Headphone_Amplifier_Performance_-_Part_2.pdf?1361

Good reading, heading off to golf for the afternoon and will read when I get back

 

[Music Alchemist]

Some describe it as "Synergy"

 
Not that dumbed-down. XD haha
 
All I'm looking for is a practical explanation that actually makes sense about why a headphone with low/normal impedance would sound worse on an amp with low output impedance -- the type of amps that are supposed to sound fine with everything.

 

[Tribbs]

Some describe it as "Synergy" :bigsmile_face:

Not that dumbed-down. XD haha

All I'm looking for is a practical explanation that actually makes sense about why a headphone with low/normal impedance would sound worse on an amp with low output impedance -- the type of amps that are supposed to sound fine with everything.

I guess what I'm trying to say is don't read too far into anyone's negative review of a set of cans produced by a highly respected company like Audeze. They wouldn't produce a product that is sub-par. Besides, not much detail can be known about a critics (assumed undamaged)equipment, source, and the music's mastering. (Don't underestimate the importance of well recorded/mastered music.) Or the critic's psychoacoustic interpretation, bias and hearing acuity. Too many variables to dissect and interpret technically.

Bottom line - Go out and listen for yourself.

 

[klfl]

Just received the EL-8 closed today. This little plastic piece is falling out right out of the box, and it keeps doing so now and then. It is not a big issue but should not happen on a $700 product.
And when the cable is plugged in, there is no sound on the right side. I have to secure the right connector with hand during listening. Otherwise the intermittent connection simply makes the headphone unlistenable.
 
I purchased the EL-8 as a potential replacement of the HD650. However after extensive listening session, I am not sure the EL-8C is a winner soundwise. I've seen other people compare the EL-8 with LCD-X, but from my personal experience the EL-8 is not even comparable to the LCD-2.
 
I can't say for the EL-8 open but I would not recommend the EL-8 closed version to anyone else. And personally I will stick to the LCD line in the future.
 
For the EL-8C both the sound and build quality turns out to be disappointing. I requested a return rather than exchange even though there will be restocking fee.
 
 

 

[lamode]

   
If all you mean is that 30 ohms is too high impedance for an amp with low output impedance, that doesn't sound right to me at all, since Schiit Audio's solid-state amps have low output impedance, yet are well regarded with high impedance headphones.

 
It will depend on the electric and mechanical damping of the headphones too. The overall damping (Q) is a product of all the damping factors such that 1/Qtotal = 1/Q1 + 1/Q2 + ...

 

[daphen]

Bottom line - Go out and listen for yourself.

I would, but they're impossible to get a hold of. Especially in Sweden.  
I just want a good sounding, well isolating, portable amp drivable (Is that even a word?), closed headphone that doesn't leak sound. Is that too much to ask?

 

[daphen]

 
For the EL-8C both the sound and build quality turns out to be disappointing. I requested a return rather than exchange even though there will be restocking fee.
 

So if one were to seek a closed headphone in this pricerange, you would say there are options that sound better?
In that case, would you be so kind as to give me some suggestions?
What did you dislike about the sound?

 

[x RELIC x]

I would, but they're impossible to get a hold of. Especially in Sweden.  
I just want a good sounding, well isolating, portable amp drivable (Is that even a word?), closed headphone that doesn't leak sound. Is that too much to ask?

Oppo PM-3.