[oqvist]

I am starting to wonder if the H6 daughter card won´t be released? And nothing happens with the drivers either?

 

[leeperry]

I'm also in contact with HT.Omega regarding bit-perfect drivers...both them and Asus are fully dependent on C-Media, that supply the DSP and the WHQL windows system drivers

if only they were as productive as Realtek when it comes to drivers, but well...not counting on bit-perfect drivers is my best advice at this point.

if you wanna ask about the H6 availabilty, I can give you the email of the Xonar product manager...who promised me bit-perfect drivers 6 months ago, so yes vaporware to the bone!

C-Media sells specs, but are noobish when it comes to audio drivers..."well, you have sound..what is the problem?"

instead of wasting money on ASIO licensing, they would have been better off building proper drivers in the first place

if you want bit-perfect/bit-matched and rock stable drivers, get a soundcard based on Envy24.

 

[oqvist]

which soundcards uses that?

I am thinking of going back to creative again... Best would be if I could get my Elite Pro console going again... Dunno if you can buy it separately it´s out of warranty

Or is there another way to get spdif out with the elite Pro?

 

[leeperry]

you can't swap op-amps on CL cards, and their drivers is one huge piece of bloatware.

well, most of the Audiotrak Prodigy line runs envy24, and many asian cards run it too...like all the Onkyo cards or these ones:

COMRADE DIGITAL 7.1 Hi-Fi (4 layers PCB, I've asked Gyrocom...it's not an OEM Prodigy 7.1 HiFi, which only has a 2 layers PCB)

TOKYO STYLE S010 DCS-SEV24/PE (that's a lotsa caps

)

X-Sword II Analog-HD PCI-E

X-Sword II Digital PC

and the list goes on..

not everyone has Asus money to waste on marketing(and shills

), but there's MANY asian soundcards(including the HD2 Advance in my signature) that give great SQ, swappable op-amps and run the audiophile-conscious Envy24 DSP...their drivers forbid resampling, are dead stable and don't require any resident apps(3 of them are mandatory for proper operation on CMI8788 based cards)

 

[ROBSCIX]

Quote:

Originally Posted by oqvist /img/forum/go_quote.gif I am starting to wonder if the H6 daughter card won´t be released? And nothing happens with the drivers either?

A few guys already had confirmation from their local dealers they were bringing in the H6 cards according to posts in the H6 thread.
They are already built for use with the HDAV 1.3 so small jump to release them on their own. I guess we will have to wait and see.

 

[oqvist]

Small jump that is exactly why I think they won´t release it. They would have done it already and I am not waiting and see any longer.

creatives driver are actually superb. The creative mediasource player is so much better then foobar it´s not funny and no issues getting bit perfect either. Once in a time they where bloatware but you can choose just install the audio console, the drivers and the media source 5 player. No bloat there

. Switching opamps didn´t help the Essence as much either in my case since my Keces is on another level. So unless I get my elite Pro going I will probably "downgrade" but just make sure I get solid spdif out

 

[leeperry]

well, put some proper op-amps...like in my signature

anyway, if you like CL go go go...at least they actually release drivers updates, not like Asus

 

[MadMan007]

With good USB DACs nowadays I don't see the point of a soundcard especially if it's only for 2 channel audio. (Note that I do have a Xonar D2X but that's because it's ok for music and for games.) You can do bitperfect via USB right? Maybe the cost is a factor though especially with some cards like that have special amp sections.

But I like the name of one of those cards....COMRADE! lol, is it made in China or Cuba?

 

[ROBSCIX]

Quote:

Originally Posted by oqvist /img/forum/go_quote.gif Small jump that is exactly why I think they won´t release it. They would have done it already and I am not waiting and see any longer. creatives driver are actually superb. The creative mediasource player is so much better then foobar it´s not funny and no issues getting bit perfect either. Once in a time they where bloatware but you can choose just install the audio console, the drivers and the media source 5 player. No bloat there . Switching opamps didn´t help the Essence as much either in my case since my Keces is on another level. So unless I get my elite Pro going I will probably "downgrade" but just make sure I get solid spdif out

Well your choice, if you don't want to wait grab something else that is available right now.

The CL drivers aren't too bad as you said you can install what you want and there are many good modded sets out there also.

 

[Kurotetsu]

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Originally Posted by leeperry /img/forum/go_quote.gif you can't swap op-amps on CL cards, and their drivers is one huge piece of bloatware. well, most of the Audiotrak Prodigy line runs envy24, and many asian cards run it too...like all the Onkyo cards or these ones: COMRADE DIGITAL 7.1 Hi-Fi (4 layers PCB, I've asked Gyrocom...it's not an OEM Prodigy 7.1 HiFi, which only has a 2 layers PCB) TOKYO STYLE S010 DCS-SEV24/PE (that's a lotsa caps )

Wow, it looks like every single channel on both those cards uses swappable op-amps. Very nice. And I imagine the 4 layer PCB helps alot for keeping out EMI?

Is there any place online that sells either card that ships to the USA?

 

[oqvist]

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Originally Posted by ROBSCIX /img/forum/go_quote.gif Well your choice, if you don't want to wait grab something else that is available right now. The CL drivers aren't too bad as you said you can install what you want and there are many good modded sets out there also.

I would love to try something else but well it feels wrong when I have a perfectly fine Elite Pro in my hands just with a borked console. It would save some money if I got that going and it sounds damn good too in analogue. It has the 6 channel analogue too which I am after....

Of course my realtek junk have spdif out but I don´t really trust onboard audio. The little I tried it it was pure crap. (Asus Commando)

may just get the cheapest possible soundcard out there with spdif and bit perfect if I can´t figure out a way getting spdif with my elite Pro

 

[leeperry]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kurotetsu /img/forum/go_quote.gif Wow, it looks like every single channel on both those cards uses swappable op-amps. Very nice. And I imagine the 4 layer PCB helps alot for keeping out EMI? Is there any place online that sells either card that ships to the USA?

if you can find a Japanese seller through google, pricejapan.com will be happy to export it for you.

yep, 4 layers is great to kill interferences...the STX and the Claro Halo have 4 layers.

 

[ROBSCIX]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kurotetsu /img/forum/go_quote.gif Wow, it looks like every single channel on both those cards uses swappable op-amps. Very nice. And I imagine the 4 layer PCB helps alot for keeping out EMI? Is there any place online that sells either card that ships to the USA?

Many of the new soundcards use swappable opamps on every channel.

 

[ROBSCIX]

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Originally Posted by oqvist /img/forum/go_quote.gif I would love to try something else but well it feels wrong when I have a perfectly fine Elite Pro in my hands just with a borked console. It would save some money if I got that going and it sounds damn good too in analogue. It has the 6 channel analogue too which I am after....

Can't you just find a new bay, or repair the existing one you have?
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Originally Posted by oqvist /img/forum/go_quote.gif Of course my realtek junk have spdif out but I don´t really trust onboard audio. The little I tried it it was pure crap. (Asus Commando)

Onboards are pretty bad for real sound quality. They won't compete with a quality soundcard.
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Originally Posted by oqvist /img/forum/go_quote.gif may just get the cheapest possible soundcard out there with spdif and bit perfect if I can´t figure out a way getting spdif with my elite Pro

Well, if it was me and I had the same hadrware as you with the borked drive bay, I would pull the drive bay and tap the S/Pdif output directly from the pin header on the card. You could easily make a Coax bracket and conenct it to this header. This would give you the S/Pdif output.

 

[oqvist]

I haven´t found anyone selling them separate. The elite Pro have a specific cable that attaches to the console which I think is not something generic... It looks a bit like a printer cable. spdif ports is on the consoles itself there is none on the card.