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I have some humble opinions. For I have been working for a cellphone manufacturer and familiar with the cell phone design.
The problem is on the manufacturers side. What the main purpose for the manufacturers is profit. They very "clever", their marketing department can smell the market trend,and tell the developing department to add in the non core functions. but the almost all the cellphone makers are not good at other non communication functions. normally they out source the non phone parts to add in their cellphone.
The cost pressure is their most concern, the cheapest hifi DAP will be a huge cost increased to any cellphone models. even increase 10 dollars cost is unacceptable. usually the cost of DAP partd in a cellphone is around 2-3 dollars. The result is the cellphone can only add in a cheap DAP function.
As a cellphone insider, the costs in the cellphone is very sensitive. For there are too much functions need costs: cellphone it'self ($15）,cammera （$ 5）, memory （$10）, battery($5),Gps module($10), FM radio($3),case($5),earphone($1), Screen (best one $30), box($1) and DAP($3) labour($ 1), tax, profits(?) and developing fee.-----, my god, How much is to sum up all those for the costs?---the newest mainstream cellphons factory price should be near to $100- $150, How can they fix their retail price at USD 200? 300 is not possible. but who will like to pay $200 or $300for a decent cellphone? few. but to any models of cellphones, they need at least half million units to consume their initial investments. Appearantly, there is no half million audiophiles to buy their hifi celphone.
Even if they want to add in a good DAP function, but they really not the specialist of audio design. And the audio designer also not the expert of cellphone.
The most possible hifi phone is a DAP/ phone, than not Phone/DAP. which focus on DAP function, phone function is only an subordinative function.
Apple, Nokia can't finish the task for their have no qualification to design a hi end audio, even Sony is not qualification for their walkman phone is just so so.
I predict Cowon, Iriver, Hifiman and Hisoundaudio can do it. of course it is only an assumption.
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What you have said applies true for mp3 players as well.
But technology had improved so much you guys probably didn't notice.
From disc players to mp3 players, the beginning of the mp3 era marked the birth of a multi-function device already.
Lets say the newer mp3 models, creative zii, zune HD, x1060, samsung p3 and cowon s9. They ALL operate on an software with hardware such as cpu and ram. Looking at those mp3 i mentioned, they all have extra built in features, such as internet browser, video player, wifi etc.
So, Why Not? Make calls and sms inside these devices you see, such as x1060 and cowon s9. And when you do add in call and sms functions, what you get, is the cellphones we get now, samsung omnia, iphone, n97 etc.
After listening to how well my samsung does, i've sold my sony x1060. i don't hear much of an difference between the two except that my sony x1060 has better musical functions and equiliser. But i don't need it, my samsung sound roughtly the same as my sony, so why keep my sony player when it would only make my trouses fatter?
And we're not even talking about different companies here.
The companies that makes digital media players/mp3 players mostly do make cellphones as well. Such as samsung and sony. So the moment you say these manufacturers doesn't focus on sound quality, you're wrong. They make excellent mp3 players people, they know all about sound quality, it isn't at all tough to built-in a good dac and amp into a High end cellphone.
It won't be about cellphones now and in the future, but about portability and combining all functions into a smart device. And technology does make things smaller. So much u could combine an dslr/mp3/pda into a smart device easily.
