[seacard]

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Originally Posted by robm321 /img/forum/go_quote.gif So you guys are all using Radio Shack cables in your set ups?

Yup (well, actually, I use Monoprice).

Funny (well, not really) story: A few years ago, when Mikhail had some semblance of morals and ethics, I stopped by his shop to demo a $15,000 headphone amp. As some of you know, Mikhail also sold very expensive cables. The interconnects he was using to connect the CD Player to the amp: radio shack. I know this proves nothing (maybe he was trying to prove that the amp sounds amazing even with the worst cables in the world), but I always thought that was interesting.

 

[atothex]

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Originally Posted by seacard /img/forum/go_quote.gif Funny (well, not really) story: A few years ago, when Mikhail had some semblance of morals and ethics, I stopped by his shop to demo a $15,000 headphone amp. As some of you know, Mikhail also sold very expensive cables. The interconnects he was using to connect the CD Player to the amp: radio shack. I know this proves nothing (maybe he was trying to prove that the amp sounds amazing even with the worst cables in the world), but I always thought that was interesting.

The amp was probably Radio Shack on the inside, too.

 

[limpidglitch]

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Originally Posted by robm321 /img/forum/go_quote.gif So you guys are all using Radio Shack cables in your set ups?

Nope, too pricy. I prefer CAT5

 

[terriblepaulz]

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Originally Posted by robm321 /img/forum/go_quote.gif So you guys are all using Radio Shack cables in your set ups?

Absolutely. Also, I will echo some of the statements above re: tubes. I think the audiocritic should acknowledge that the distortion introduced by tubes can be quite mellifluous.

 

[kool bubba ice]

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Originally Posted by robm321 /img/forum/go_quote.gif So you guys are all using Radio Shack cables in your set ups?

X2. I always loved that arguments.. PC are not made the same. Like everything, some are made better, others worse..

 

[Steve Eddy]

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Originally Posted by seacard /img/forum/go_quote.gif Funny (well, not really) story: A few years ago, when Mikhail had some semblance of morals and ethics, I stopped by his shop to demo a $15,000 headphone amp.

What amp was that?

k

 

[Mehve]

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Originally Posted by Last line in article In the end, every culture gets exactly what it deserves.

All too true, in my opinion.

Nice enough article, although doesn't entirely do justice to a few of the items.

 

[BIG POPPA]

Articles like these are entertainment for me. If you don't know where you stand on the points, it is a little eye opening reading this guys opinions? This article is almost 10 years old so to me it is irrelevant today.

 

[AtomikPi]

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Originally Posted by BIG POPPA /img/forum/go_quote.gif Articles like these are entertainment for me. If you don't know where you stand on the points, it is a little eye opening reading this guys opinions? This article is almost 10 years old so to me it is irrelevant today.

His arguments are just as true now as they were back then.

From the perspective of this subsection of the forum, most of his arguments are entirely true versus true with an asterisk for tubes and vinyl. There's nothing wrong with SS. I have been around plenty of 30 year old SS gear that works perfectly fine, and the only real reason to go with tubes is (a) you like the distortion (there's nothing wrong with that - audio is subjective) or (b) you like the look and feel.

 

[Donald North]

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Originally Posted by AtomikPi /img/forum/go_quote.gif the only real reason to go with tubes is (a) you like the distortion...

Compared without feedback, a single triode when loaded by a high impedance has lower distortion than a single transistor. The 6DJ8 example in the paper has its load trimmed to attain a gain of x10. Theoretically the distortion can get down in the ppm level with higher load impedance like a CCS.

http://www.its.caltech.edu/~musiclab...er-acrobat.pdf

 

[Steve Eddy]

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Originally Posted by Donald North /img/forum/go_quote.gif Compared without feedback, a single triode when loaded by a high impedance has lower distortion than a single transistor. The 6DJ8 example in the paper has its load trimmed to attain a gain of x10. Theoretically the distortion can get down in the ppm level with higher load impedance like a CCS.

Quite so.

And many solid state amps out there achieve their low distortion not due to any inherent superiority of solid state devices when it comes to linearity, but rather by throwing a ****load of parts at the problem and then wrapping the whole mess in a lot of global feedback.

k

 

[atothex]

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Originally Posted by AtomikPi /img/forum/go_quote.gif His arguments are just as true now as they were back then. From the perspective of this subsection of the forum, most of his arguments are entirely true versus true with an asterisk for tubes and vinyl. There's nothing wrong with SS. I have been around plenty of 30 year old SS gear that works perfectly fine, and the only real reason to go with tubes is (a) you like the distortion (there's nothing wrong with that - audio is subjective) or (b) you like the look and feel.

THD tells nothing about what's audible and what isn't.

 

[Uncle Erik]

I also used to use Radio Shack cables and a mess of others I got for free or for a buck out of a bin at a swapmeet.

I switched to Blue Jeans only because I wanted my cables to all look the same. Aesthetically, matching cables improved my enjoyment.

 

[Brighten]

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Originally Posted by Uncle Erik /img/forum/go_quote.gif I also used to use Radio Shack cables and a mess of others I got for free or for a buck out of a bin at a swapmeet. I switched to Blue Jeans only because I wanted my cables to all look the same. Aesthetically, matching cables improved my enjoyment.

The truth about cables.

 

[seacard]

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Originally Posted by Koyaan I. Sqatsi /img/forum/go_quote.gif What amp was that? k

It was an ES-2, if I remember correctly.