[soundman414]

There is no analog inputs in Twelve anymore. There was on 600i.

You're right, I was thinking of the 600i My bad...

 

[Deftone]

Looks to me like outputs only, quite unusual decision considering the current mode amp is the star of the show not really the dac.

Even so im still thinking about getting it because the 650s balanced sounded so nice on the CMA400. I found the twelve model for £1,200.

 

[DrWhite]

İt is just sad we don't have analog in, it is a deal breaker for me, i know their technology from cma800r and heard lots of good things about it but at the end of the day generally we gonna need a better dac, for me the yggy or terminator...

 

[Deftone]

I think in this case its only hurting sales, i could be wrong but to me it appears like they all use same complete dac chip 4490 and layout on the boards. It would have been nice to have AKM4497 at least on the Twelve. I believe the designer worked hard at marking the dac to flow in harmony with the amp section but its limiting peoples options who want r2r multibit or fpga style converters that they may already own or want to upgrade to in the future.

 

[Amber Rain]

That’s odd the early review above stated that it had RCA inputs.

I wonder why they got rid of them? The (now) cheaper CMA600i has them, makes no sense...

 

[Deftone]

From some sources ive seen the dac section apparently has dual 4490s in the twelve but in all other models it appears to be a single chip.

Still dont know why they didnt go with dual 4497... but its the implementation what really counts of course and it does sound very good.

 

[karmazynowy]

From some sources ive seen the dac section apparently has dual 4490s in the twelve but in all other models it appears to be a single chip.

Still dont know why they didnt go with dual 4497... but its the implementation what really counts of course and it does sound very good.

There is no dual DAC in Twelve. Where did you get this info from?
Single 4490 like in other models, CMA600i and 400i.

 

[Deftone]

There is no dual DAC in Twelve. Where did you get this info from?
Single 4490 like in other models, CMA600i and 400i.

http://www.enjoythemusic.com/CanJam_RMAF_2018/page5.htm

Questyle Audio
Just a table over from the Woo booth, Questyle Audio had a big pile of goodies on display, including their new CMA Twelve DAC/AMP. The CMA Twelve ($1,499) represents the 12th anniversary of Questyle's current-mode amplification technology. It runs in pure class-A and sports dual AKM4490 DAC chips along with True DSD support. There will also be a CMA Twelve Master edition available with a ceramic board and upgraded parts for $1,999.

And

http://www.hifiheadphones.co.uk/que...eadphone-amplifier-pre-amp-usb-dac-black.html

Marking the 12th anniversary of Questyle's Current Mode Amplification technology conception, the CMA Twelve is the new top of the line DAC and headphone amplifier combination. Able to run pure class-A and equipped with dual AKM4490 DAC chips and True DSD support Questyle CMA Twelve exceeds standard audio performance.

 

[lolobisaudio]

I think there are dual DAC. they were saying that on their facebook page. BTW, is it available anywhere in the world ? In Europe it seems they have problem with ROHS certification.

 

[karmazynowy]

There is no info about dual DAC on Questyle website.

It looks like single chip for me.

 

[karmazynowy]

 

[lolobisaudio]

"Questyle Audio had a big pile of goodies on display, including their new CMA Twelve DAC/AMP. The CMA Twelve ($1,499) represents the 12th anniversary of Questyle's current-mode amplification technology. It runs in pure class-A and sports dual AKM4490 DAC chips along with True DSD support. There will also be a CMA Twelve Master edition available with a ceramic board and upgraded parts for $1,999." - Dave Hanson, EnjoyTheMusic.com

http://enjoythemusic.com/CanJam_RMAF_2018/page5.htm

But you're right no such info on their website

 

[Deftone]

Yeah it does from the pictures, definitely some confusion at the press end.

 

[lolobisaudio]

Yeah it does from the pictures, definitely some confusion at the press end.

I see CMA twelve in your signature. Do you own it ?

 

[Deftone]

The severe lack of communication from is very worrying, ive been trying to contact them for over 3 weeks and no responce. This doesnt leave me with any confidence at all, i feel like returning the 400i and canceling the order of Twelve.