Don Quichotte
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...with two guys from a company not only selling, but also repairing printers and refilling cartridges - this came right after the advices I've got from some of you here last week in this thread. So, according to their experience:
- in most cases, the build quality is getting worse and worse by each generation (I knew this)
- the black cartridge of the Canon Pixma MP520 I was thinking about has a chip that does not allow refilling unless reset with a special device (you can refill, but the printer will claim the cartridge is empty and will refuse to print). Many other models from this and other brands have such a chip too
- given their bad build quality, it is somewhat risky to buy an inkjet multifunctional as the more complex the machine is, the more chances there are that something stops working and in that case you cannot use the other functions either until you repair the malfunction.
- the prices for service pieces are outrageous, sometimes as much or more than the price of a whole new printer
- in the HP 2460's case, a certain plastic piece is prone to break and there is no such piece available for servicing, so if it breaks your printer cannot be repaired - and I suppose this is far from being a singular case; however, its black ink cartridge can be refilled without any problem and has a reasonably great capacity
- the Lemark inkjets are pretty low quality, at least the cartridge clogs very often
- the Canon inkjets are prone to giving this message after a while (and I gess after a few refillings): "the waste tank is full" (or compartment, or something like that) and then you need to take it to a service or to buy a new cartridge
- they were carrying Canon, HP and Lexmark and they recommended Canon or HP for inkjets and HP for lasers.
- for my needs (cheap printing with no hassle, 95% b&w, and quite a few pages), they recommended me a low end HP laser monochrome printer. They said it can be refilled with toner easily and there is no fuse requiring replacement with every refilling like in the case of other laser printers (and he mentioned Samsung). However, when I asked if I can refill it by myself, the answer was "only if you know what you are doing; we do it together for 20 times, then you can do it, otherwise no, you end up with black dust coming out of the printer without being able to figure out where it's coming from and other such problems". I strongly suspect that he was deliberately exaggerating on this as they have an interest in having people come to them and pay for refilling, but I guess there is also some truth in his claims. And I still don't like the health concerns related to the laser printer's air pollution.
So I guess I will end up buying the inkjet HP 2460 or even its cheaper 1460 sibling for a third of the price of the laser HP they recommended and print as much as possible within the first year (refilling the cartridge by myself), so that if it breaks, I can claim warranty. If it breaks later, I can easily buy another one.
I just wanted to share with you some things "from behind the courtains" that I've found out. Hope somebody will find it useful.
- in most cases, the build quality is getting worse and worse by each generation (I knew this)
- the black cartridge of the Canon Pixma MP520 I was thinking about has a chip that does not allow refilling unless reset with a special device (you can refill, but the printer will claim the cartridge is empty and will refuse to print). Many other models from this and other brands have such a chip too
- given their bad build quality, it is somewhat risky to buy an inkjet multifunctional as the more complex the machine is, the more chances there are that something stops working and in that case you cannot use the other functions either until you repair the malfunction.
- the prices for service pieces are outrageous, sometimes as much or more than the price of a whole new printer
- in the HP 2460's case, a certain plastic piece is prone to break and there is no such piece available for servicing, so if it breaks your printer cannot be repaired - and I suppose this is far from being a singular case; however, its black ink cartridge can be refilled without any problem and has a reasonably great capacity
- the Lemark inkjets are pretty low quality, at least the cartridge clogs very often
- the Canon inkjets are prone to giving this message after a while (and I gess after a few refillings): "the waste tank is full" (or compartment, or something like that) and then you need to take it to a service or to buy a new cartridge
- they were carrying Canon, HP and Lexmark and they recommended Canon or HP for inkjets and HP for lasers.
- for my needs (cheap printing with no hassle, 95% b&w, and quite a few pages), they recommended me a low end HP laser monochrome printer. They said it can be refilled with toner easily and there is no fuse requiring replacement with every refilling like in the case of other laser printers (and he mentioned Samsung). However, when I asked if I can refill it by myself, the answer was "only if you know what you are doing; we do it together for 20 times, then you can do it, otherwise no, you end up with black dust coming out of the printer without being able to figure out where it's coming from and other such problems". I strongly suspect that he was deliberately exaggerating on this as they have an interest in having people come to them and pay for refilling, but I guess there is also some truth in his claims. And I still don't like the health concerns related to the laser printer's air pollution.
So I guess I will end up buying the inkjet HP 2460 or even its cheaper 1460 sibling for a third of the price of the laser HP they recommended and print as much as possible within the first year (refilling the cartridge by myself), so that if it breaks, I can claim warranty. If it breaks later, I can easily buy another one.
I just wanted to share with you some things "from behind the courtains" that I've found out. Hope somebody will find it useful.