[Mr. Tadashi]

It is a car charger unit that has a line out socket on it for the use of connecting the WM Port equipped sony units to a car system via Aux line/FM transmitter/car cassette audio adapter. I got it at a local sony style store over the weekend.

SonyStyle.com | Sony | Car Connecting Cable

And their dock cradle has a line out.(I was going to get one but they were out of stock there)

SonyStyle.com | Walkman^® Cradle BCR-NWU3

 

[Sparky191]

Does the dock need AC to work or is that just to charge the walkman?

 

[Mr. Tadashi]

I think it is to just charge the walkman. I cannot confirm that yet as I don't have my A-816 with me to test it yet.(Ken has it right now.) The litature that came with it indicates that it is a true line out.(It has an attenuation switch as it is designed for car accessories.) I should be able to confirm that later today.

 

[SleeperAwake]

Thanks for all the info! =)

Actually when I look at the stock USB cable, there are only a few pins (just enough for data transfer and charging, I presume). Are there any alternatives with all the pins included?

Been searching the web and bumped into this japanese site.

Kinda messy, but there are some useful info. The translation didn't help (can't read Japanese). Haha... I've tried nifty and excite jp

Here's an extract :
"...
pin:Long or Short: description [ ..inscribing.. continuation of WM-PORT ]
01: L: GND
02:S :
03:S : USB data +
04:S : USB data -
05: L: GND
06: L:
07: L: 5V-input
08:S : port-check [<---> 10pin]
09:S : function-check [<--Rx-->01,22pin(GND)]
10:S : port-check [<---> 08pin]
11:S : USB-check [USB:<--->07pin / other : open]
12: L: 4V-output
13:S : audio-left-input
14:S : audio-left-output
15: L: audio-GND
16:S : audio-right-input
17:S : audio-right-output
18: L: GND
19:S :
20:S :
21:S :
22: L: GND

Rx recording line - out
220k - ×
100k - - Changeability
68k - ×
47k × - Fixation
33k × - Changeability
22k - - Fixation
15k - - Changeability
10k × - Changeability
4.7k × - Fixation
The headphone stops at the line - out.

The cable for the recording is connected from 09pin with 01 and 22pin(GND) through resistance Rx=220kΩ.
The voltage of 09pin seems to change when this resistance is changed, and to distinguish the kind of the port by this.

It seems to be judged that the port is connected when 08pin and 10pin are short-circuited.

Input of 5V of power supply
To cannot the start of the charge after 07pin+11pin:USB connection is displayed and the operation
Only 07pin: It charges it by 90mA that can be operated. The charge ends automatically
..."

Anyone can make any sense out of the "Rx.. 220K... 100k..." part?

Here's some pics I've gathered from there :

Hope this helps.

Cheers!

PS : at post 238, it was mentioned :
"A clear sound seems to be emitted somewhat compared with the headphone output (In my ER-4S&ATH-W1000 + ear).
The white noise decreases, too.
The beep sound doesn't occur.
The quality of the sound seems to be better than that of taking from the earphone terminal."
So this is good news for the hiss we hear from the headphone out.

 

[Mr. Tadashi]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sparky191 /img/forum/go_quote.gif Does the dock need AC to work or is that just to charge the walkman?

I tried to use it and the dock needs AC to work.

 

[falang]

Ken,

You can sign me up for one if it proves to feasible.

 

[basman]

I've got the recording cable and disected it as with the pics above and do the soldering sad to say no music comes out.

 

[Cowon_1]

Ok does this mean that the Sony doesn't really have a true line out?

Because I'm dieing to use it with an amp...which I have never done in my life with a dap.

 

[Mr. Tadashi]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cowon_1 /img/forum/go_quote.gif Ok does this mean that the Sony doesn't really have a true line out? Because I'm dieing to use it with an amp...which I have never done in my life with a dap.

It has a line out but, it is locked and requires it to be plugged into a power source for the line out to work.(AFIK the Zune has a similar deal with its line out) As it stands Ken is working on finding a way to make a lod that will work on the A8XX/A6XX units.(Getting around the having it plugged in part.)

 

[Cowon_1]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Tadashi /img/forum/go_quote.gif It has a line out but, it is locked and requires it to be plugged into a power source for the line out to work.(AFIK the Zune has a similar deal with its line out) As it stands Ken is working on finding a way to make a lod that will work on the A8XX/A6XX units.(Getting around the having it plugged in part.)

Thank You very much Mr. Tadashi, man I hope something can be figured out...I'd love to buy the tiniest amp I could find and use it with my Sony 616. It would be a new experience for me.

 

[soundfreq]

yup, also interested in this one. hope ken will find a way. just saw these sony daps yesterday. and i'm thinking of getting one.

 

[basman]

Quote:

Originally Posted by soundfreq /img/forum/go_quote.gif yup, also interested in this one. hope ken will find a way. just saw these sony daps yesterday. and i'm thinking of getting one.

Get it now SF. You'll love it paired to your Hornet and Triplefi....its made from heaven.

 

[soundfreq]

thanks basman. i'm actually very close in getting one. but i have yet to read all the threads regarding this dap. without the lod ken is hopefully going to make, i don't think i'll every go back to using a mini-mini cable. not only is a lod beats a mini-mini cable in terms of sound quality, but i think it would also add a "wow" factor to the over-all look of a portable rig.

 

[basman]

Bro the mini to mini itself sounds great. Im sure the LOD will sound much better.

 

[soundfreq]

Quote:

Originally Posted by basman /img/forum/go_quote.gif Bro the mini to mini itself sounds great. Im sure the LOD will sound much better.

i'll wait for a few more days. don't want to buy a mini-mini cable then shift to an lod if it does come out. my wallet will surely kick my #$!