[Malakei]

Hey guys, have a pair of sr-80s that are going on me, was looking at the ms-1s and some tell me they are modded 125s. Even sr80s cost as much as the ms-1s cost now. How does this guy stay in buisness if he sells these for so cheap? Perhaps he gets a ridiculous discount? Does he use used cans? Any impressions on the ms-1 and if they are worth the 100 bucks retail?

 

[Dash]

SR80-MS1 is not an upgrade IMHO. I would save the pennies for at a minimum the SR225s. The SR325i's and MS2's are worth a look too.

 

[Televator]

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Originally Posted by Malakei /img/forum/go_quote.gif Hey guys, have a pair of sr-80s that are going on me, was looking at the ms-1s and some tell me they are modded 125s. Even sr80s cost as much as the ms-1s cost now. How does this guy stay in buisness if he sells these for so cheap? Perhaps he gets a ridiculous discount? Does he use used cans? Any impressions on the ms-1 and if they are worth the 100 bucks retail?

and the MS1 (and MS2i and MSPro) are produced as alessandros by grado-labs for alessandro... they are not modded existing grados

 

[umcloud]

If you're looking for a more analytical, more detailed replacement to your SR-80, the MS-1 would be a good bet. But I wouldn't call it an upgrade. If you want a clear improvement, as Dash said, you should probably save up for the SR225 or SR-325i.

Oh, and it's not like Alessandro buys SR125s and then modifies them himself into MS-1s. They are specially produced by Grado, and use components that seem to match the SR125 the closest.

 

[F107plus5]

Right; the same upgraded "materials" are used in the MS-1. Also; part of the reason the MS-1 are such a relative bargain is because the surprisingly expensive to produce and install ID button is not used on the MS-1, and the MS-1 also uses the same less expensive "Comfy" pads as used on the entry-level SR-60 while the SR-125 uses the bowl pads. And of course keeping the price below the magic $100 mark may also help drive the $99 price.

Then of course the MS-1 also gives the option of a 1/4" or 1/8" plug, but I suspect that that has no particular effect on the price, but it is an interesting selling feature.

In addition; if a listener is outside of the US, the savings become even greater due to the way Alessandro sales are structured.

Then again; a lot of folks actually prefer the sound of the Alessandros.

 

[souperman]

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Originally Posted by F107plus5 /img/forum/go_quote.gif Then again; a lot of folks actually prefer the sound of the Alessandros.

Like me

. I wouldn't do it if I were you however. I'd shoot for a 225. I only didn't go for the 225 because I have the MS1's, and I enjoy them much more than SR80's.

 

[F107plus5]

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Originally Posted by souperman /img/forum/go_quote.gif Like me . I wouldn't do it if I were you however. I'd shoot for a 225. I only didn't go for the 225 because I have the MS1's, and I enjoy them much more than SR80's.

Nope; I wouldn't recommend them even as a small step up from SR-80. More of a side step of course.

Mostly pointing out the differences between the Grados and the Alessandros, and suggesting that they are in fact probably worth what Alessandro is charging, especially throughout the rest of the world.

If it came out sounding like a recommendation....my bad.

...the MS2i on the other hand...!

 

[MontyPythizzle]

Anyone know where to get the MS-1s from a reputable place?

 

[Anarchy965]

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Originally Posted by F107plus5 /img/forum/go_quote.gif the surprisingly expensive to produce and install ID button is not used on the MS-1

That was a joke right?

 

[F107plus5]

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Originally Posted by Anarchy965 /img/forum/go_quote.gif That was a joke right?

Actually.....nope!

Digging back through the older Grado threads looking for that last bit of info from the old-time Grado insiders; there it was! The comments that the ID buttons are really a pain to properly produce. And after the buttons are finally made to appropriate standards, trying to install them properly is a fairly precise and fussy time consuming operation as well.

So nope; not a joke at all it seems!

 

[BrookR1]

Installing the button is easy...it's aligning the screen that's the difficult part. I wonder how much the buttons actually cost. 3 cents?

 

[richierich]

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Originally Posted by MontyPythizzle /img/forum/go_quote.gif Anyone know where to get the MS-1s from a reputable place?

http://www.alessandro-products.com/headphones.html

Straight from Alessandro!

 

[easy_hk]

SQ for SR-80 and MS1 are same level, just diff type

 

[Dash]

Only place to get Alessandro's(besides FS forum) is direct from Alessandro.

Edit: Save up for some MS2s.....they will not disappoint.

 

[Bozz_Keren]

damn after listening to MS2i, RS2 and MSPro, i've learned how important soundstage was, MS1 nearly don't have soundstage, it's like flat and neutral sound and only emphasize in mids, bass isn't deep enough, less high extension
i think the upgraditis hit me now..

maybe RS1 or MSPro will do justice