AI GENERATED CONTENT-An existential threat to all audio communities

[NymPHONOmaniac]

Hello (real) headfiers!

I'm a old member here, as well as 22K members group creator (ChiFi Freedom, which is in fact my second group, other one being NBBA 10K members, now on pause for good)

I'm invested in written review content since about 10 years too, with a passion for critical listening to judge technical performance sound benefit return in all price range...im not just critical of audio impressions but humans behaviors too, should it be paid promoter, fake bots account and now.....biggest thread of them all: AI generated text à la Chatgpt etc that begin to flood audio communities like my group and headfi reviews content.

I'm here as a whistleblower, trying to warn Headfi members and staffs of this invasive fake reviews frauds that will just go worst and make everything saturated with tons of fake contents, which will over shadow real listening impressions, make by passionate hobbyist like me, that earn zero $ and pass hours and hours listening and writting detailed sound impressions.

In my ChiFi Freedom goup, i put in rules the interdiction of posting AI written content. They are no1 ennemies we try to fight and take a stand against.

We plan doing a list, denouncing all the fraudsters.

It's no a simple task at all, since we have now ''text humanizer'' to make even harder the AI detecting, yet Scribrr detector still work for less knowledgeable fraudsters.

If i make this thread, it's again to take a firm stand against those cynical opportunistic cheaters and denounce the one we are 99.999999999999999999% certain they are AI abuser.

I'm use to be against the wind. Integrity is my no1 value. I wish to influence other protecting this value too.

So, there one example, it's not a big reviewer and he's been stop before becoming one. Before i was into pardon, but we can't now. Not to look full of prejudice, but their some countries that seem to have more fraudsters. Bangladesh is one of them. It don't mean they are all dishonest! It's based on Facebook group observation, we caught 4-5 AI cheaters from this country.

What are your thoughs about AI written reviews?

Have you seen some here on headfi? Like obvious one???

 

[Cinder]

The only valuable review is one that provides honest human insights into the value of a product. AI models are, full stop, incapable of obtaining such insight. Therefore, AI "reviews" should be strictly policed and removed on sight.

That said, I'm not entirely sure what the best way to handle this is, and I'm sure the admins share our concerns.

 

[NymPHONOmaniac]

The only valuable review is one that providws honest human insights into the value of a product. AI models are, full stop, incapable of obtaining such insight. Therefore, AI "reviews" should be strictly policed and removed on sight.

That said, I'm not entirely sure what the best way to handle this is, and I'm sure the admins share our concerns.

exactly, the human factor-hearing sens here-is fundamental for critical listening purpose as well as emotion is crucial to perceive sens of musical enjoyment, engagement, emotional reach etc

it make more than a year i'm worry about how this will turn, before this we have bots on CFF, their surely some still but we fight it good.

i prophetize that an AI will be able to translate frequencies balance graph into written sound description soon, some reviewers are in fact already graph readers....they will be first to be replace by this kind of content generator. i,ve seen some youtube review with AI voice content, yet real human hands playing with the products. but it's less invasive, especially here.

now how to report those scams with 100% certainty it's where it's complicate...the one i share made a mea culpa, which confirm it was true fake review. i have other mea culpa, but some will still lie and even attack me or my group so....it's very risky. doing this all alone.

so, let say when its 75% and above in Scribrr AI detector, we can begin report. especially if it's more than only one single review.


fake reviews are more numerous in budget IEM segment, like KZ stuffs...but not only.

 

[BusterBuxter]

very important subject, I hope that companies will put all the AI Reviewers on a blacklist because they're fooling them too and tricking them into thinking that they're legit.
if you have a list of all the guys that you caught abusing ai please share it here so consumers and companies will know about them.

 

[SatorArepo]

Pointless Head-Fi become paradise for an AI cheaters, i have reported like few times so cheaters, no1 really care...

 

[kmmbd]

The most disheartening and frankly, disturbing aspect for me about these AI generated nonsense reviews has been the fact that some of them actually made it to the Headfi front page.

I'd expect headfi admins to filter these texts better (and frankly it becomes evident once you read through a few paragraphs) but so far there has been little scrutiny regarding these "fake" reviews.

Nonetheless, I hope this thread sparks a more widespread discussion and concern, and we can weed out the fraudsters.

 

[zabiri]

AI generated reviews and/ or content is getting out of control not only in headfi but also in facebook groups and audio communities. Although I dont know how, but I jope we can find a way to resolve this issue.

And being a bit more specific about content from Bangladesh, this is very disappointing to see how low people get.
I feel deeply ashamed for being a Bangladeshi audiophile and reviewer myself.

 

[Blindranger]

I assume everyone is using AI as a ghost writer now. Nearly every message I send for work is being proofread and enhanced by AI; every proposal I write, every client deliverable, and so on. Why would it be any different here?

Here is how AI rewrote the above:
I just assume AI is already ghostwriting a huge chunk of what we’re reading, whether in forums, reviews, or even casual impressions. I use it constantly in my professional life: nearly every work message, proposal, or client deliverable gets run through AI for polish or clarity. Why would this space be any different?

It doesn’t mean the ideas or experiences aren’t real, but the language is increasingly AI-assisted. That’s not inherently bad, but it does raise questions about authenticity, voice, and how we evaluate credibility in this new landscape.

 

[NymPHONOmaniac]

very important subject, I hope that companies will put all the AI Reviewers on a blacklist because they're fooling them too and tricking them into thinking that they're legit.
if you have a list of all the guys that you caught abusing ai please share it here so consumers and companies will know about them.

will do....i have a friend wich is AI Police....more experienced wwith this than me that never ever touch Chatgpt (not jokin)

Pointless Head-Fi become paradise for an AI cheaters, i have reported like few times so cheaters, no1 really care...

dont give up mate....this thread is exactly made to expose abuser persisting here...and on CFF. for the rest i dont care i'm no super hero. so fake reveiws can pollute other FB groups it's not my game.

I assume everyone is using AI as a ghost writer now. Nearly every message I send for work is being proofread and enhanced by AI; every proposal I write, every client deliverable, and so on. Why would it be any different here?

Here is how AI rewrote the above:
I just assume AI is already ghostwriting a huge chunk of what we’re reading, whether in forums, reviews, or even casual impressions. I use it constantly in my professional life: nearly every work message, proposal, or client deliverable gets run through AI for polish or clarity. Why would this space be any different?

It doesn’t mean the ideas or experiences aren’t real, but the language is increasingly AI-assisted. That’s not inherently bad, but it does raise questions about authenticity, voice, and how we evaluate credibility in this new landscape.

yeah, i know...it's a shame. 70% of students us AI too....ther even class about it...my brother is a teacher and he use AI....

im french native and never nor will ever use AI to write in english. some people are lazy, mediocre and complecent....i can't fight this. it's productivity task....if sound impressions are just non sens it's where it become an issue. if its just used to enhance a text...can be OK i guess since core of impressions will be meaningful.


when and if it go out of control, their will be so much non sens pseud reviews here that valuable one will be drown in it...like AI content on Facebook, fake image and video are begining to dominate....disinformation too...etc.

AI generated reviews and/ or content is getting out of control not only in headfi but also in facebook groups and audio communities. Although I dont know how, but I jope we can find a way to resolve this issue.

And being a bit more specific about content from Bangladesh, this is very disappointing to see how low people get.
I feel deeply ashamed for being a Bangladeshi audiophile and reviewer myself.

yeah i underline its not everyone, yet it can put shadow on some....like. OK. Sonic Mantra for ex, they were using AI in the past, we caught them, they do mea culpa then truely improve and stop using AI. as well, they report AI users, which I applause.
for me: this give me hope in humanity.
last one say: it's a crime to do so....yet he do it still. so those peope are aware they trick and fraud content. those using enhancer or some translation tool, its different...yet, even when i do a test translating a french written review with google translate AI detector was zero, so, better write in native langage and use translation tool if you aren't good enough to express sound impressions in english.

their lotta true audiophile passionate in wide Asian territory from India to Phillipine to Indonesia and Bangladesh etc...but one thing sure: it's more common than non native english speakers-writters tend to use AI. personaly, i prefer authenticity, which can include imperfection in grammar, than glossy artificial perfection that mean absolutely nothing, is super vague...often contradictory.

 

[Adamant11746]

Hello (real) headfiers!

I'm a old member here, as well as 22K members group creator (ChiFi Freedom, which is in fact my second group, other one being NBBA 10K members, now on pause for good)

I'm invested in written review content since about 10 years too, with a passion for critical listening to judge technical performance sound benefit return in all price range...im not just critical of audio impressions but humans behaviors too, should it be paid promoter, fake bots account and now.....biggest thread of them all: AI generated text à la Chatgpt etc that begin to flood audio communities like my group and headfi reviews content.

I'm here as a whistleblower, trying to warn Headfi members and staffs of this invasive fake reviews frauds that will just go worst and make everything saturated with tons of fake contents, which will over shadow real listening impressions, make by passionate hobbyist like me, that earn zero $ and pass hours and hours listening and writting detailed sound impressions.

In my ChiFi Freedom goup, i put in rules the interdiction of posting AI written content. They are no1 ennemies we try to fight and take a stand against.

We plan doing a list, denouncing all the fraudsters.

It's no a simple task at all, since we have now ''text humanizer'' to make even harder the AI detecting, yet Scribrr detector still work for less knowledgeable fraudsters.

If i make this thread, it's again to take a firm stand against those cynical opportunistic cheaters and denounce the one we are 99.999999999999999999% certain they are AI abuser.

I'm use to be against the wind. Integrity is my no1 value. I wish to influence other protecting this value too.

So, there one example, it's not a big reviewer and he's been stop before becoming one. Before i was into pardon, but we can't now. Not to look full of prejudice, but their some countries that seem to have more fraudsters. Bangladesh is one of them. It don't mean they are all dishonest! It's based on Facebook group observation, we caught 4-5 AI cheaters from this country.





What are your thoughs about AI written reviews?

Have you seen some here on headfi? Like obvious one???

I certainly agree that AI reviews are a problem, and that we shouldn't tolerate someone using AI to generate a review, but I feel like I should point out the shortcomings of AI detection software. It is extremely unreliable and has a VERY high false positive rate, so be careful not to accuse based solely on a detection program flagging someone's post. It's an especially big concern given the perfectly legitimate uses of AI (proofreading, giving suggestions for improvements to your own writing, and similar) that have been pointed out earlier in the thread.

As to your second question, I haven't seen anything obviously AI written, but I also haven't been looking for it.

Edit: I feel like the best way to use AI is not to believe the hype. It's a tool, it's not perfect, and you have to curate the output to make sure it does what you want. You certainly shouldn't depend on it for accuracy, and it's not a replacement for doing your own research and testing.

 

[earmonger]

AI is NOT accurate. It can't distinguish a reliable source from a phony one. All it can do is see how often certain words/groups of words are used in combination, depending on what "training" material it has been fed, and spew them out in grammatically plausible ways. Given the amount of sheer poppycock in "audiophile" marketing (and shill reviewing), I wouldn't expect AI to provide useful information.

 

[2leftears]

I'm afraid the genie is out of the bottle already.

It semi-accurately parrots both information and misinformation, if that is what you mean.

By all means, use AI as a tool, but please follow it up by some critical thinking and independent fact-checking, because AI gets a lot very wrong.

Always, always ask AI for its sources and check them yourself. (add "Provide sources." to the query when dealing with a slightly more "intelligent" AI that actually provides the sources on request).

 

[castleofargh]

AI hallucinates, so to avoid AI's doubtful content, of course we go ask another AI if it's AI. But that one also hallucinates and gives false results sometimes(often). At that point, we need to go ask a third AI if the second one is wrong about the first one.
The design is very human.

 

[SatorArepo]

AI is NOT accurate. It can't distinguish a reliable source from a phony one. All it can do is see how often certain words/groups of words are used in combination, depending on what "training" material it has been fed, and spew them out in grammatically plausible ways. Given the amount of sheer poppycock in "audiophile" marketing (and shill reviewing), I wouldn't expect AI to provide useful information.

Not true, some AI detectors arent reliable, some are less and some more, academic community using scribbr which is proven to be pretty reliable, but again you have some phony sites which will show an AI for 200 empty space characters, its pretty easy to determine false or true narrative...

 

[earmonger]

Not true, some AI detectors arent reliable, some are less and some more, academic community using scribbr which is proven to be pretty reliable, but again you have some phony sites which will show an AI for 200 empty space characters, its pretty easy to determine false or true narrative...

Try to read what you reply to.