A Head-Fi Prize for pseudo-scientific technobable :)

Sep 7, 2009 at 11:35 AM Post #16 of 34
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Originally Posted by xnor /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Can't remember buying socks for over $700 or anything else thats 250x overpriced. (compared to the price of other products in the same category)


There probably are socks for $700. Just as there are ties, shirts, shoes, and everything else. But that's beside the point - you are trying to say that because there are no socks for $700, there is nothing other than audio that's "overpriced". That is, ofcourse, a logical fallacy.
 
Sep 7, 2009 at 11:40 AM Post #17 of 34
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Originally Posted by b0dhi /img/forum/go_quote.gif
There probably are socks for $700. Just as there are ties, shirts, shoes, and everything else. But that's beside the point - you are trying to say that because there are no socks for $700, there is nothing other than audio that's "overpriced". That is, ofcourse, a logical fallacy.


Of course there are. I'm not trying to say there are none, just that I'd never buy them.
And if you don't have a lot of money this principle should be applied to everything else too.
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Sep 7, 2009 at 6:05 PM Post #18 of 34
Each individual human had a fundamental adverse problem imposed on their senses when they had their first photograph taken. A photographic image captures the unique identity of the subject of the photograph but imposes a significant temporal (time) asymmetrical pattern. The action of this photograph radically changed the inner symmetry of the senses of the photographed human being. Fortunately, this debilitating adverse condition is reversible.

To restore a significant temporal (time) symmetry to any person's senses, it is necessary to acquire one photograph which was exposed when the person was young and another photograph exposed when the person was older. Each photograph is placed, individually, into it's own clear plastic bag. The two plastic bags, each containing a spaced time photograph of the same individual, should be placed inside the freezer compartment of the domestic refrigerator. This will create a most unusual beneficial phenomenon. After placing the two separate photographs within the freezer compartment, either live or recorded music should be played within the listening room. A significant improvement to the musical sound should have taken place. Removing the photographs from the freezer compartment should produce an immediate adverse response if the music is played again. Replacing the two photographs within the freezer compartment will immediately restore the beneficial improvement in the sound.


Interesting. I would be tempted to try this one, as I am open-minded (and proud of being so!).
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Not sure whether the fact that the pics, once in the freezer, would be neighbouring a bottle of vodka would significantly alter the results.
 
Sep 7, 2009 at 6:18 PM Post #19 of 34
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Originally Posted by greenhorn /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Interesting. I would be tempted to try this one, as I am open-minded (and proud of being so!).
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Well just be careful that you're not so open minded your brains slosh out onto the floor.
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Not sure whether the fact that the pics, once in the freezer, would be neighbouring a bottle of vodka would significantly alter the results.


It shouldn't. In fact, it's reported that it works better when there are other items in the freezer with the photographs. And better still if you treat the items in the freezer with Peter Belt's Creme Electret.

Also, placing photographs of your audio system in your freezer also nets improvements.

And no, I'm not making this up.

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Sep 7, 2009 at 6:59 PM Post #20 of 34
It almost doesn't bother me that a few people say some silly things, and charge outrageous sums of money for said silly things. (why didn't I think of that) but that there are people, out there, possibly placing photographs of themselves with their $400 knobs in the freezer. It's almost scary what these people could be doing besides being knobs themselves. Like reproducing, teaching your children, giving you medical care, on television, in possible positions of power, public interest, pouring your beer. They could be everywhere! I highly advise dealing with an extreme prejudice if encountered.
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Sep 7, 2009 at 7:51 PM Post #21 of 34
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Originally Posted by brotherlen /img/forum/go_quote.gif
It almost doesn't bother me that a few people say some silly things, and charge outrageous sums of money for said silly things. (why didn't I think of that) but that there are people, out there, possibly placing photographs of themselves with their $400 knobs in the freezer. It's almost scary what these people could be doing besides being knobs themselves. Like reproducing, teaching your children, giving you medical care, on television, in possible positions of power, public interest, pouring your beer. They could be everywhere! I highly advise dealing with an extreme prejudice if encountered.
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Geoff Kait of Machina Dynamica, inventor of the "teleportation tweak," and something of a Peter Belt protege, supposedly works for a defense contractor.

Let's hope he's just a janitor.
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Sep 7, 2009 at 7:57 PM Post #22 of 34
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Originally Posted by Koyaan I. Sqatsi /img/forum/go_quote.gif

Also, placing photographs of your audio system in your freezer also nets improvements.



Photographs of my audiosystem in its youth or recent ones? Or both?

Because I only have B&W ones since it was a young (but promising) audio system... Is b&w ok?

Or I may paint them a bit with some special marker. Knowing anybody selling good (I mean really good) audio-markers? I would need 4-5 colours only. Looking to spend not more than $150 - $200 for a set. Maybe a bit more, if it's really good stuff.
 
Sep 9, 2009 at 3:22 AM Post #23 of 34
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Originally Posted by Koyaan I. Sqatsi /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Also, placing photographs of your audio system in your freezer also nets improvements.

And no, I'm not making this up.

k



Will liquid nitrogen deliver a better result than the domestic freezer?
 
Sep 9, 2009 at 9:22 AM Post #24 of 34
Wow, that photograph thing is perhaps a sign of mental illness. That's not even an audiophile claim, that's new age shiz.
 
Sep 9, 2009 at 12:35 PM Post #25 of 34
Just so people don't misconstrue that paragraph about photographs as having an effect on the audio equipment, what it's saying is that the person's hearing improves when your temporally asymmetrical pictures are under the uh symmetrical condition of the freezer.

I read the entire article and I think their problem is they don't have any appreciation of how they can be negatively influenced by something simply by their belief that it will. People with as many fears as these people have a tendency to have pretty poor use of their senses because all their mental energy is directed towards finding flaws which makes them nervous wrecks rather than the natural instinct of adapting to all circumstances and not being plagued by fears of things like asymmetrical energy lol.
 
Sep 9, 2009 at 4:09 PM Post #27 of 34
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Originally Posted by haloxt /img/forum/go_quote.gif
I read the entire article and I think their problem is they don't have any appreciation of how they can be negatively influenced by something simply by their belief that it will.


Of course that works both ways.

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People with as many fears as these people have a tendency to have pretty poor use of their senses because all their mental energy is directed towards finding flaws which makes them nervous wrecks rather than the natural instinct of adapting to all circumstances and not being plagued by fears of things like asymmetrical energy lol.


I would argue that quite a lot of audiophiles are plagued by just as many fears of their own.

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Sep 9, 2009 at 4:11 PM Post #28 of 34
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Originally Posted by DanielCox /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Basically people are lazy and stupid.


Ah, a fellow misanthrope.

Pleased to meet your acquaintance.
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Sep 9, 2009 at 5:05 PM Post #29 of 34
Once you decide that humans are bad test subjects you have two choices, give up looking for an answer or try to find a way to test humans that can do away with the problems you accuse audiophiles of.
 
Sep 9, 2009 at 5:12 PM Post #30 of 34
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Originally Posted by haloxt /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Once you decide that humans are bad test subjects you have two choices, give up looking for an answer or try to find a way to test humans that can do away with the problems you accuse audiophiles of.


That's what blind testing was developed for. To control for the ambiguities presented by purely subjective evaluation.

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